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Old 08-17-2015, 08:46 PM   #1
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Does anyone have the empty (dry) weight and well as a typical loaded (wet) weight for the Seneca?
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:05 PM   #2
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37hj 38' 11" 102" 157" 83" 28,000 33,000 6.7l cummins isb-340 276" 35m 71.5 40 30
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you can also go to Jayco's web site and download the brochure for your 2015 Seneca HJ
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:48 PM   #4
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It tells you gvw and gcwr but I didn't see dry or wet weights.
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:49 PM   #5
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Sorry to say this, but the dry weight means exactly squat. Its a barebones number for an RV and you are luck if it includes wheels and seats. I see that everybody looks at dry weight and says "I can tow this" based on the numbers in the brochures. (Dealers don't help here). There are 2 numbers in the RV world that mean anything for the most part. The YELLOW sticker that lists the "AS SHIPPED" weight and the GVWR.
IMHO, calculations for tongue weight should be done with 15% of GVWR and nothing less. This will give you the max on the back of your truck, and if it is anywhere near your payload (read over 70%), it is too much for your truck to handle safely once your family, bicycles, BBQ, adult bevies, etc is put in the box of the truck.
Once again... just my .02. (hoping not to offend anybody, but it should be said)
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Old 08-18-2015, 02:41 AM   #6
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Does anyone have the empty (dry) weight and well as a typical loaded (wet) weight for the Seneca?
Hey Mike... You used the most dangerous word you can on any RV Forum... "Weight" is a trigger word and can quickly result in an avalanche of reponses... Most freindly, some a little pompous and occasionally a few who are down right angry... In secret corners of the RV world you may hear whispers about the Weight Police... I promise, they are all well meaning and only occasionally do they bite.

Part of the problem might be terminology. Based on what you asked, I hope this helps. Some of it will depend on what reason you are looking for then info. For example Northern Jay's info is very valuable to a person concerned about hitching on to a tow vehicle and might have value if you are going to be dollying a car.

I suspect the "Dry Weight" you are looking for is the previously mentioned "shipped weight" and there should be a sticker inside your rig with that number.

I am guessing you want to know the "Wet Weight" so you have an idea what amount of your GVWR your are using during your travels.

The only way to get a travel weight or "Wet weight" is to load it up and stop by a set of scales. I know the first time this was suggested to me, it sounded a little daunting. It really is not. Next time you are heading out on a trip fill your tanks and stop at a Cat Scales along the route. It literally takes 5 minutes to have your rig weighed. I think it cost me $10 the last time I went. If you do it on a real trip with all of your family and gear on board you will get a true and accurate number.

Hope that is the info you were looking for.
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:24 AM   #7
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Loaded weight is what I am looking for as it seems these vehicles might be a lot closer to their gvw or gcwr than you might think. I occasionally tow a 7700 trailer and will be flat towing at other times.
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Sounds like you are off to the CAT Scales then because every rig will have a different loaded weight. We all pack differently so asking what average weights are is a quick route to trouble. Get an accurate weight and alleviate any concerns for yourself.

Flat towing should be fairly straight forward with a Seneca as there is almost no tongue weight involved so it is simply a matter of ensuring you are not over weight.

The trailer is a different story. And that is where NJ's advice comes in. For that set up it is definetly worth going out to the CAT Scales and having proper weights done to measure your tongue weight. This is where the experts will chime in as there are many on here with far more knowledge then me on the capacity of your rig and the proper method of weighing in on the scales to get the numbers you will require.
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Old 08-18-2015, 03:23 PM   #9
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Sound like good advise. I am extremely versed in towing so just trying to get close on loaded weight but will scale next time I'm out!
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The factory weight with full fuel and propane is 21767 with a CCC 6233. So, if I tow a 7000 lbs trailer the loaded weight of the coach would need to be 26,000 to stay within the GCWR. That's probably pretty doable!!
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