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Old 08-29-2016, 01:49 PM   #1
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Blue Ox SwayPro

So, I took the hitch my dealer sold me with my trailer without much thought. Turns out, the hitch was not optimal for a number of reasons. Not the least of which was that it was under-sized for my application. It was a Fastway E2 1000/10000; generally a fine hitch, but with a potential max tongue weight of around 1400 lbs, I felt it wasn't quite up to the task I was asking of it. Also, it is a "round-bar" setup, meaning that the spring bars come out the bottom of the hitch head and curve back toward the trailer. A "trunion" bar setup is more appropriate for my "underslung" coupler.

I was never able to get my front fender back to unloaded height with that hitch, and the trailer was always a bit "twitchy" with it. I never had actual sway, but it just wasn't quite right.

After much deliberation and shopping and wringing of my hands, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a Blue Ox SwayPro, model BXW1503. This model is specifically designed for trailers with "underslung" couplers (that's a coupler that's mounted to the bottom of the frame) as opposed to the BXW1500 for top-mounted couplers.

I ordered the hitch from Etrailer.com and it shipped quickly (and for free). The box was quite beat up, but the parts inside were fine, and they were all there. Price was pretty even wherever I shopped, and I like Etrailer, so that's how I ended up there. They are available elsewhere.

Manufacturer website:
SwayPro® | Blue Ox

Listing on Etrailer.com:
https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Dist...x/BXW1503.html

Setup was SUPER easy. I did the initial setup (based on measurements) in my garage. This included mounting the hitch head to the shank, and mounting the 2-5/16" ball into the hitch head. The ball mount in the hitch head is open, so this task was easy, and I didn't need a special "thin walled" socket.

I followed the instructions for the rest of the setup, which I was able to accomplish in the storage lot when I went to pick up my trailer last week. The initial setup as recommended in the manual was perfect. I have about 3/4" front end drop when the trailer is hitched up, and my front fenders are EXACTLY where they were unloaded, and I'm using the 9th link from the non-bar end of the chain (this is the only adjustment in the entire setup). I still need to go weigh everything, but after driving it 300 miles last weekend, I can tell you it'll scale out just fine.

The BXW1503 ships with a standard 7-hole shank which offers no drop. I have a tall Ram 2500, so I knew I was going to need some drop in my shank. This is where Blue Ox service comes into play. I knew this before I ordered the hitch as I had talked to a Blue Ox rep before (she also clarified that there IS a difference in the hitches for underslung couplers; it's the angle of the spring bar sockets). She informed me that I could ship back the (unused) 7-hole shank, and they would ship me out whichever one I needed. So I called them back after my hitch arrived, and much to my surprise, they sent me a FedEx label (paid for) and shipped my new shank out immediately! Talk about GREAT service!! (That reminds me, I better ship them my original shank! I haven't done that yet!) I ordered the BXW4003, which is a 9-hole shank (offering .78" drop) and 12" long. So now I can drop my tailgate while hitched up!

Bottom line so far: I've only towed with it once, but I would say I'm happy, and I would recommend it. The difference is clear if not dramatic. I used to get a little wiggle from the trailer when big rigs or large trucks would pass. I could feel the wave from the tail of the trailer all the way up to the truck. Now I don't feel it near as much if at all, but when I DO feel it, it's the truck and trailer moving as ONE unit. It feels a lot more stable now. I don't know exactly how the sway control part works, but I can say that it does in fact work. And it's quiet too.

Setup is SUPER easy, as are adjustments. Adjustments simply involve a different chain link. There's no head tilting, or spring bar hanger adjusting. And the best part? No tools needed for regular adjustments.

The rotating latches take some getting used to, but after three times hitching/unhitching, I think I've got it. One piece of advice here, keep a good hold on that tool when you are unhitching; the first time, I lost hold of it and it swung around pretty hard and fast, it could have caused some damage if there was flesh and bone in its path. Also, jack the trailer and the truck up high when you're hitching/unhitching to make it easier.
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Old 08-29-2016, 02:15 PM   #2
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Great product overview......, and being able to drop the tailgate with the WDH engaged is a bonus.

If you get a chance, post a couple of close-up pics of the new WDH with your TV/TT combination.

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Old 08-29-2016, 02:21 PM   #3
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Great product overview......, and being able to drop the tailgate with the WDH engaged is a bonus.

If you get a chance, post a couple of close-up pics of the new WDH with your TV/TT combination.

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I'll try to grab some pics when I hook it up to take it back to storage later this week.
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:01 PM   #4
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Great product overview......, and being able to drop the tailgate with the WDH engaged is a bonus.

If you get a chance, post a couple of close-up pics of the new WDH with your TV/TT combination.

Bob
Finally got a chance to get some pics.

This is in my driveway on slightly unlevel ground; my driveway dips right under the hitch, so the rear of the truck and the nose of the trailer are lower than if they were on completely level ground.

My previous hitch would not allow the tailgate to drop. I needed about an inch or two to make that happen. As you can see, with the new, longer shank I have plenty of clearance there.

I need to move the curb-side rotating latch forward about 1/2" (street-side is pictured, and looking at it looks like I need to bump it forward a bit too), but other than that, everything is great! The chains are supposed to be exactly vertical going into the rotating latches.

I haven't had a chance to lengthen the safety chains yet. I would prefer they ride under the hitch head instead of over the spring bar sockets.
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:55 PM   #5
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Camper Bob,
I have the same setup. I went to harbor freight and bought a 1/2 inch breaker bar 24 inches long for $12.99 and a 1 inch socket at Lowes. Makes hooking up the chains much easier and safer.
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Camper_bob,

Thanks for posting the pics...., I was curious about the hardware clearances of the Blue Ox SwayPro integrated with a bottom mount TT coupler and your 3/4 ton TV receiver height......, looks good!

I also had to replace my safety chains with a longer set....., the OEM receiver on my new 2500HD has the safety chain mounting holes located further back on the receiver then my prior 2500HD receiver.

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snip...... I haven't had a chance to lengthen the safety chains yet. I would prefer they ride under the hitch head instead of over the spring bar sockets.
I agree.

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Appreciate the post. It goes a long way to easing any concerns I had in regards to installing mine at a campground when ours is delivered to us 1500 miles from home.

I want to setup the head/shank/ball before we leave so all I need to do when they deliver the trailer to us at our campsite is install the brackets on the A frame and adjust it as necessary, but in order to do so, I need to find out the tongue measurements from a leveled 2017 330RSTS with the Maxxis tire upgrade so I have figures to go by when figuring out the proper holes in the shank.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:58 AM   #8
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Appreciate the post. It goes a long way to easing any concerns I had in regards to installing mine at a campground when ours is delivered to us 1500 miles from home.

I want to setup the head/shank/ball before we leave so all I need to do when they deliver the trailer to us at our campsite is install the brackets on the A frame and adjust it as necessary, but in order to do so, I need to find out the tongue measurements from a leveled 2017 330RSTS with the Maxxis tire upgrade so I have figures to go by when figuring out the proper holes in the shank.
Yes indeed. To mount the rotating latches, you only need a couple wrenches. The recommended torque on the mounting hardware for the rotating latches is only like 75 lbs, so no long or large tools required for that. As long as you have good measurements for your hitch receiver, and your leveled coupler height, you should be good to go!

ETA: It's just that simple if you have already set up the head/shank/ball. That part is a bit harder because of the size of the tools required. Most people I know don't travel with the tools necessary to replace/install a hitch ball.
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I have the same setup. I went to harbor freight and bought a 1/2 inch breaker bar 24 inches long for $12.99 and a 1 inch socket at Lowes. Makes hooking up the chains much easier and safer.
I carry a long-handled 1/2" ratchet instead of a breaker bar, and all the sockets I need with me when I'm towing anyway, so if I ever decide I need them, I have them. But so far, I'm doing pretty well with the supplied wrench. As long as I have both hands, and a firm grip on it when I go to release the rotating latch, I don't have a problem. The first couple times was a different story though; I thought for sure there was a better way, it was pretty awkward. But once I got used to it, it's fine.
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Camper_bob,

Thanks for posting the pics...., I was curious about the hardware clearances of the Blue Ox SwayPro integrated with a bottom mount TT coupler and your 3/4 ton TV receiver height......, looks good!

I also had to replace my safety chains with a longer set....., the OEM receiver on my new 2500HD has the safety chain mounting holes located further back on the receiver then my prior 2500HD receiver.



I agree.

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Thanks!

So how did you "lengthen" them?

I haven't decided exactly how I'll do it yet. I'm thinking of a short length of chain attached to the existing chain with a threaded link. The hook end uses a simple pin held in place with a bent cotter pin, so that part is easy.

ETA: One of the reasons I wanted to go with this type of hitch was because with my previous round-bar hitch, the bars rode really low. I was worried about ground clearance issues, and would have preferred the bars to ride closer to the trailer frame. Interestingly, it doesn't look like these ride that much higher. I didn't measure them before and after because that wasn't a huge deal to me, but looking at my pictures above, I don't see a lot of difference there?
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