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Old 12-07-2013, 02:06 AM   #1
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Newbie here. I am in the process of upgrading from a Travel Trailer to a 2014 Eagle 28.5BHDS. My TV is a 2008 Toyota Tundra Double Cab with 5.7L V8 Engine.

I created this thread with an effort to solicit real life input on how the Tundra would handle the Eagle 28.5BHDS 5th Wheel. Dry weight on the Eagle is approximately 8,300Lbs. Pay/ Hitch load weight is 1,622.

Toyota Tundra’s Max Towing capacity is 10,500 lbs. With a pay load of 1,500lbs.

The Tundra is a ½ ton truck but it can handle quite a bit more than what it is rated for. I use it daily as a work truck and I have to say it is on par with a few ¾ ton trucks. Plus I intend to invest in some helper springs (TIMBREN Suspension Enhancement System) to elevate rear sagging.

That said, I am very well aware that I am pushing the limits here but I would like to hear SPECIFICALLY from a member who currently has a similar/ close set up or had such a set up in the past. How is the overall towing experience? How does the Tundra handle on steep grades? etc etc.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:36 AM   #2
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Real life; The delivery weight of the 5th wheel will probably be closer to 85 to 8600lbs. Pin weight will probably be closer to 1800lbs. You will end up being easily 500 to 700 lbs over payload capacity once loaded. You will probably exceed your GCVWR and rear axle weight rating. Rear suspension enhancements don't increase capacities. Vehicle manufacturers put those weight stickers on their vehicles for a reason. JMO
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:14 AM   #3
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Figuring 25% of GVWR, you are 1000lbs over just on pin weight alone. Sorry, as much as I love Tundras, I've had two of them, they are not suitable to tow any but the lightest 5th wheels.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:38 AM   #4
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snip....... I created this thread with an effort to solicit real life input on how the Tundra would handle the Eagle 28.5BHDS 5th Wheel.....snip
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Knowing how much "real life" available Payload Capacity your specific Tundra actually has will eliminate a lot of the guess work. Take your loaded Tundra (passengers, full fuel, cargo, etc.) to a CAT scale and weigh it (easy process, takes 15 seconds, about $9). Subtract the CAT scale weight from the Tundra's GVWR noted on the driver's door...., the remaining weight is available payload capacity for the FW's loaded pin weight, hitch weight, and any other TV weight not accounted for at the CAT scale.

Jayco published UVW (8,225 lbs) and Hitch Weight (1,622 lbs) are not Ship Weights, refer to the Yellow Sticker on the side of the FW. If the 28.5 BHDS isn't available, IMO add at least another 400 lbs to the published UVW (as member TCNASHVILLE mentioned).

For your actual loaded pin weight allow 20% to 25% of the 28.5 BHDS's projected loaded weight...., depends on your personal loading habits.

The Tundra's published Tow Rating and Payload Capacity is based on it's Curb Weight. https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...uot-Tow-Rating

I realize you are looking for input "specifically" from members with a similar TV/FW combination.., but I felt the previous information would be helpful in your do diligence.

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Hi guys,

That said, I am very well aware that I am pushing the limits here but I would like to hear SPECIFICALLY from a member who currently has a similar/ close set up or had such a set up in the past.

Thanks in advance.
I really hesitated in responding to your thread cuz I am not replying with information that you specifically asked for...and therefore ask forgiveness. However, (there always seems to be a "however") IMHO you are not thinking about safety here. You will be way over on your pin weight and that is dangerous because you need a safety margin. I was in a similar situation where my 3/4 ton TV was way undersized for the pin weight on our previous 5er. For me, driving with that condition was not fun and I really considered that I was putting my life and others lives in jeopardy. I hope your decisions are good ones
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I know you don't want to hear this, but that's too much trailer for that truck. If you were to have an accident and, God forbid, injure or kill someone else their attorney would have a field day...............
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Old 12-07-2013, 03:26 PM   #7
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Since the OP seems to understand that his setup is likely overweight / not ideal, and is requesting the towing experiences from RVers in a similar circumstance, perhaps we could see if anyone is in a similar circumstance rather than reiterating what is already known? Now it may turn out that there is no one else willing to operate such a combo, but you never know.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:12 PM   #8
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We were over nighting in Ely, NV last spring and the guy next to us was pulling a 5er with a Tundra. He was from Canada and seemed very happy with his setup. I'm sorry that I don't recall what model his 5er was but it was at least a 28 footer.

I'm thinking that power in the mountains might be a consideration, although it seems that the newer gas V8s have some pretty respectable numbers.

I guess I'm guilty of not being as cautious as the rest about safety. I figure the nut that is sitting behind the steering wheel is the cause of most accidents.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:31 PM   #9
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3/4 ton minimum needed. Way, way too much for any half ton
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We just purchased the 2014 Eagle Touring Edition 28.5bhds this past fall. Pin weight has already been mentioned and it is a very valid point. I do have a Tundra V8, but I don't haul the fifth wheel with it. I haul with a Chev 3/4 ton diesel. I didn't get a chance to weigh the truck with the unit hooked up, but it squatted the truck pretty good. Pretty sure it would be too much weight for the Toyota. Legally and wear and tear on your truck.We hauled our previous fifth wheel with a half ton before but it only weighed 7200 gvw 5600 dry. That was about the limit I felt comfortable with on the half ton. JMHO.
I have not hauled this fifth wheel with the Tundra, so I can't give the OP the exact feedback he is looking for. I have pulled the fifth wheel he is looking at, and I do own a Tundra which I've towed pontoon boats, trailers, etc. Based on that, I would suggest that this particular fifth wheel is too much for the Tundra.
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