Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-30-2016, 06:03 PM   #21
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: smithville, ont.
Posts: 1,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by vivusCraig View Post
What make and model 5th do you have? I checked our pinnacle as per your instructions. Braces look in tack, no bends, welds look good, no signs of trauma. What did your's look like?
Here's the thread of the bending supports. I know it's about NorthPoints but the pinnacle is built the same.
https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f6...lse-35795.html
__________________

__________________
2016 North Point 341RLTS
520watts of solar. Morningstar MPPT
2017 F-350 Platinum CC SRW
klassic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2016, 07:09 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Palmyra
Posts: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by klassic View Post
Here's the thread of the bending supports. I know it's about NorthPoints but the pinnacle is built the same.
https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f6...lse-35795.html
Klassic, that is great information. Thank you. I forwarded this link to our Jayco dealer to what he thought. Will keep you posted.
__________________

__________________
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 36FBTS
vivusCraig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 04:18 PM   #23
Senior Member
 
Rock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Mexico Beach
Posts: 1,026
Had the same slide issue on mine. After messing with it finally started working correctly. Dealer ran it numerous times and did the voltage checks and motors were good. So far no more problems but I do hold the switch and count to five when it stops. U can hear the motors re sync several times. I called Jayco about the level question. I was told level first is recommended but if u have a problem run slides first if that works better for you than level last. So no good answer there. Look into your wheel wells and u will see the three frame supports. Ours are welded and bolted but the bottom edge is rolled 90 degrees to help stiffen. Keep an eye on them. I have posted that I have sealed with silicone all seams and staples in the wheel wells and bottom inside edge of slides. U can take your fingers and push up on the black covering in the wheel well and frame and along the metal rock guard. That is ur floor area . Driving in rain ur wheel well area is like being sprayed with a fire hose. All that water is pushing in under along the frame. That is your floor bottom that is just covered by the black material. Ur slide is above that and all the weight is on the floor right above the frame outriggers. AZ has the same model and he has driven many miles in hard rain. He now has floor waterdamage he can see inside and bent outriggers. The only way water gets in is from a fridge leak or from the wheel wells. He noticed the vinyl floor bubbling and a soft spot by fridge than found the bent supports. He ran a moisture guage under the frame and it went off scale by the bent support and soft floor
__________________
2016 Pinnacle 36 FBTS
2006 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4
SB SRW 5.9
Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 05:12 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Springfield
Posts: 180
I had the same problem on mine and it would bind after just coming in. I also found the video where you run it until it binds, briefly extend, then fully retract. After doing this I tested it twice a day for a week in our driveway plus have camped several times and no issues since then.

The 2 tips I've found are:

1. Always fully extend or retract and never stop in the middle.
2. Hold button in for 5 seconds after the motors stop making any noises.

My dealer said people not doing the above cause 90% of the schwintech problems.
estesbubba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 06:13 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Palmyra
Posts: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock View Post
Had the same slide issue on mine. After messing with it finally started working correctly. Dealer ran it numerous times and did the voltage checks and motors were good. So far no more problems but I do hold the switch and count to five when it stops. U can hear the motors re sync several times. I called Jayco about the level question. I was told level first is recommended but if u have a problem run slides first if that works better for you than level last. So no good answer there. Look into your wheel wells and u will see the three frame supports. Ours are welded and bolted but the bottom edge is rolled 90 degrees to help stiffen. Keep an eye on them. I have posted that I have sealed with silicone all seams and staples in the wheel wells and bottom inside edge of slides. U can take your fingers and push up on the black covering in the wheel well and frame and along the metal rock guard. That is ur floor area . Driving in rain ur wheel well area is like being sprayed with a fire hose. All that water is pushing in under along the frame. That is your floor bottom that is just covered by the black material. Ur slide is above that and all the weight is on the floor right above the frame outriggers. AZ has the same model and he has driven many miles in hard rain. He now has floor waterdamage he can see inside and bent outriggers. The only way water gets in is from a fridge leak or from the wheel wells. He noticed the vinyl floor bubbling and a soft spot by fridge than found the bent supports. He ran a moisture guage under the frame and it went off scale by the bent support and soft floor
Yea, no one told us about holding the switch until it stops. Our previous fw, an Eagle, slides were hydraulic. As soon as the grinding started, I would stop, fearing that I would damage slide.

When we starting having problems, I did some research and found out the Schwintek slides are very, very different. We have had one trip out with our pinnacle and that is when we had our issues. You can bet I will be holding the the extend/retract button for 5 seconds or more after the motors stop.j

Thanks for the heads up about the supports in the wheel well. I would never have thought about that. They are good now but I will keep an eye on them. I think I will do some silicone sealing myself.

Now that I know how to get my slide motors back into sync, I think I am emboldened to do some experimenting with what works best, with automatic leveling or no automatic leveling.

Hoping now that I have reset my slide that some of my issues will be behind me.

So great to get the experiences of everyone here. Thanks so much.
__________________
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 36FBTS
vivusCraig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 06:17 PM   #26
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Palmyra
Posts: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by estesbubba View Post
I had the same problem on mine and it would bind after just coming in. I also found the video where you run it until it binds, briefly extend, then fully retract. After doing this I tested it twice a day for a week in our driveway plus have camped several times and no issues since then.

The 2 tips I've found are:

1. Always fully extend or retract and never stop in the middle.
2. Hold button in for 5 seconds after the motors stop making any noises.

My dealer said people not doing the above cause 90% of the schwintech problems.
Thanks estesbubba. After getting things working yesterday, I tested it 4 times in the driveway. I too will likely be doing more tests until our next trip out in a week and a half.

Once bitten, twice shy. You can bet I will be very careful to hold the button down well after the motors stop.
__________________
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 36FBTS
vivusCraig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 06:42 PM   #27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Palmyra
Posts: 125
Kitchen Side slide binding again

Ok, after resetting the slide controller yesterday, everything was good. Ran the slide in and out 4 times. No hiccups. Motors sounded great.

Went out to test it tonight. As the slide was coming in, one side binded and stopped again. I was able to bring it in using the technique described in the video above.

Did I miss something after resetting the controller? We put the controller in manual mode and extended and retracted it. In fact we did it 4 times. Tonight, things are back to the way they were yesterday.

Any thoughts?
__________________
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 36FBTS
vivusCraig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 07:38 PM   #28
Senior Member
 
Rock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Mexico Beach
Posts: 1,026
U might have a weak motor and it will keep going out of sync. The dealer can check that. They thought I had one but did not. Mine will re sync everytime I move it u can hear when it stops it makes noise at least once. Jayco should be using the new 500-1 motors and steel shafts to move the big slides. I am concerned about opening slides and than leveling because of the bracket issue. If the slide is open and u level u have way more weight out over the bracket. When the frame starts to move and twist with the jacks the brackets are being way overloaded
__________________
2016 Pinnacle 36 FBTS
2006 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4
SB SRW 5.9
Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2016, 08:32 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Palmyra
Posts: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock View Post
U might have a weak motor and it will keep going out of sync. The dealer can check that. They thought I had one but did not. Mine will re sync everytime I move it u can hear when it stops it makes noise at least once. Jayco should be using the new 500-1 motors and steel shafts to move the big slides. I am concerned about opening slides and than leveling because of the bracket issue. If the slide is open and u level u have way more weight out over the bracket. When the frame starts to move and twist with the jacks the brackets are being way overloaded
Thanks Rock. That could be it. I also found an another version of how to reset the controller. Here are both below. Version 2 has a step to reset the controller out of manual mode and reset the motors. Yesterday I used version 1. Notice it is missing the last step of version 2 (green). Just a few minutes ago, I did version 2 with the additional step. Will check tomorrow to see if that was the missing ingredient.

I also agree with you. Don't want to put more stress on the brackets than we need too.

Will keep you posted as to whether that solves my problem.


Version 1
1. Electronic Manual Override (available on board revision C1
and newer):
A. Locate the circuit board.
B. Press the “mode button” six times quickly, then
press a seventh time and hold for approximately five
seconds (Fig. 1).
C. The red and green LED lights will begin to flash,
confirming the override mode.
D. Release mode button.
E. Back inside coach; use the normal slide control
switch to retract the room.

Version 2
Electronic Manual Override (Controllers C-1 and C-2 Only) NOTE: See (Fig. 5) for locations of the mode button and LEDs.
1. Press the mode button on the controller six times and hold on the seventh for five seconds to enter electronic manual override mode.
2. Use the extend/retract switch to move both motors in or out.
NOTE: Over-current and short circuit detection are disabled. Electronic manual override provides 12V directly to both motors.
3. To exit the mode, push and hold the mode button until the LEDs begin to blink simultaneously. Exiting the override mode resets the motor positions
__________________
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 36FBTS
vivusCraig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2016, 02:50 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Palmyra
Posts: 125
Make sure you don't forget this step when resetting controller

Just wanted to let everyone who has a Schwintek slide and need to synchronize the motors that that there is an important final step that needs to be completed.

Failure to complete this last step, will have the slide resorting back to the same behavior that motivated you to reset the controller.

Warning: The Schwintek slide instructions to put into manual mode varies from pdf to pdf. Below is an example of the instructions I in two different pdfs.

When I completed the version 1 instructions, although the slide performed perfectly while in manual mode. It later reverted back to the problem binding behavior.

However, when I followed the version 2 instructions, my binding issue went away. The key to the solution is the last, bolded step in version 2.

I hope this helps someone in the future.

Version 1
1. Electronic Manual Override (available on board revision C1
and newer):
A. Locate the circuit board.
B. Press the “mode button” six times quickly, then
press a seventh time and hold for approximately five
seconds (Fig. 1).
C. The red and green LED lights will begin to flash,
confirming the override mode.
D. Release mode button.
E. Back inside coach; use the normal slide control
switch to retract the room.

Version 2
Electronic Manual Override (Controllers C-1 and C-2 Only) NOTE: See (Fig. 5) for locations of the mode button and LEDs.
1. Press the mode button on the controller six times and hold on the seventh for five seconds to enter electronic manual override mode.
2. Use the extend/retract switch to move both motors in or out.
NOTE: Over-current and short circuit detection are disabled. Electronic manual override provides 12V directly to both motors.
3. To exit the mode, push and hold the mode button until the LEDs begin to blink simultaneously. Exiting the override mode resets the motor positions
__________________

__________________
2016 Jayco Pinnacle 36FBTS
vivusCraig is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
schwin

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.