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Old 09-26-2023, 06:18 PM   #1
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We bout our 5th wheel about 7 months ago, We have taken 4 or 5 trips so far in it. I noticed that the Lippert leveling system will throw a power fault if I am not hooked to shore power.

I have a 50amp plug at the house so its always hooked up to shore power at home, but the other day I decided to see if I could get all the slides in and raise the trailer to truck height on battery power. The trailer has 2 Interstate deep cycle 80 ah batteries.

If I try to hit truck height, it will only get 1 of the 4 leveling jacks raised then throws a fault.

If I only try the slides, I can only get 1 1/2 slides retracted before it just acts like batteries are dead.

I called Lippert and they told me it should run the leveling system on only one battery no problem - CampingWorld thinks it obsoletely needs 2 batteries.

I checked the batteries disconnected from shore battery and they are giving me 12.16 volts

I am also getting 12.16 vols at the level system motor/pump.

Camping World is looking at this issue this week along with some other issues but it seems everything is working as it should? Lippert said the check the voltage at the leveling systems controller, but I only see controllers for the slides in the basement. This 5th wheel has 2 different styles of slides.

What did I miss?
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Check to make sure you have a good ground at the wires from the battery. Also, did you check the voltage at the battery or pump when it is running/under load? Could your batteries be bad? Just some thoughts.
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Check to make sure you have a good ground at the wires from the battery. Also, did you check the voltage at the battery or pump when it is running/under load? Could your batteries be bad? Just some thoughts.
I will have to get a second pair of hands from the wife and verify the volts under load. I am suspecting a bad battery - one thing I just realized is that I checked the batteries while they were running off the converter from the solar panels....probably need to turn off the converter and recheck the batteries.
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You either have a bad battery or bad connections somewhere.
I'm betting on a bad battery.
I would pull the batteries and have them load tested would be my first move before letting an rv shop touch the rig.
Any of the auto parts shops will do it free.
Many times Trailers are shipped with one battery.
Got left on the lot with battery connected. Battery got fully discharged a number of times because the 12 volt disconnect doesn't disconnect the propane carbon monoxide sensor. This hurt the battery. Add a second battery and it pulls the new one down.
It takes some time but it happens.
Get the batteries load tested.

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You either have a bad battery or bad connections somewhere.
I'm betting on a bad battery.
I would pull the batteries and have them load tested would be my first move before letting an rv shop touch the rig.
Any of the auto parts shops will do it free.
Many times Trailers are shipped with one battery.
Got left on the lot with battery connected. Battery got fully discharged a number of times because the 12 volt disconnect doesn't disconnect the propane carbon monoxide sensor. This hurt the battery. Add a second battery and it pulls the new one down.
It takes some time but it happens.
Get the batteries load tested.

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I am thinking bad battery as well, Camping World never leaves batteries in the units on the lot. In fact, I learned after questioning why Jayco denied a warranty claim that this unit sat on the lot for 14 months before we bought it. So even tho its a 2022, it wasnt sold til march of this year.

There are a couple of things that need to be repaired, which is another story and thread I have here about the washer they installed, so having them look at the batteries is under warranty since the batteries are only 7 months old.
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We bout our 5th wheel about 7 months ago, We have taken 4 or 5 trips so far in it. I noticed that the Lippert leveling system will throw a power fault if I am not hooked to shore power.

I have a 50amp plug at the house so its always hooked up to shore power at home, but the other day I decided to see if I could get all the slides in and raise the trailer to truck height on battery power. The trailer has 2 Interstate deep cycle 80 ah batteries.

If I try to hit truck height, it will only get 1 of the 4 leveling jacks raised then throws a fault.

If I only try the slides, I can only get 1 1/2 slides retracted before it just acts like batteries are dead.

I called Lippert and they told me it should run the leveling system on only one battery no problem - CampingWorld thinks it obsoletely needs 2 batteries.

I checked the batteries disconnected from shore battery and they are giving me 12.16 volts

I am also getting 12.16 vols at the level system motor/pump.

Camping World is looking at this issue this week along with some other issues but it seems everything is working as it should? Lippert said the check the voltage at the leveling systems controller, but I only see controllers for the slides in the basement. This 5th wheel has 2 different styles of slides.

What did I miss?

Do you have an update to this? Just bought a 2023 and having the same issues. Thanks
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I had a similar issue with jacks and problems with the slide/solar. When plugged in worked fine. When unplugged, had intermittent problems. This is on a 2021 Pinnacle.

Found several bad or poor connections. See pictures attached. This panel is located behind the 2 propane tanks on the drivers side. The wire with the yellow connector was just laying inside the lug, very little crimp. Others were not much better. After rebuilding connections, no more issues.

This may not be your issue. Could easily be a bad battery. But, I would check your connections.
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Thanks, I’ll check the connections tomorrow and see what I can come up with. Makes sense since my problem is intermittent and my batteries are brand new.
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Check hydro fluid in electro-hydro unit. If its too low that can causes issues as well.
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I had to re-crimp the wires at the batteries and the ends to the pump. This fixed several issues with the leveling system. The ground wire attached to frame was tight but the end at the battery was not securely attached.
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The RV should level and extend rooms without issue under batter power given a fairly full charged set. If not, then my bet is at least one loose connection, especially on a less than 2 yo camper.
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