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Old 11-19-2014, 12:23 PM   #31
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I have a 4WD F350 and the only two times it's been stuck are... Once in a deep sand campsite, and once in a sand pit motocross area that I inadvertantly found while trying to turn around in a 2 track. I also have electronic locking differential. Doesn't matter how many wheel drive you have, certain tires are made for sand. Stock tires are not. Come visit Silver Lake sand dunes in MI and see how many people are in stock 1 tons driving around the sand. You won't find any.

You don't have to believe me but I'm just throwing it out there as caution. It takes snow like a champ though.
Good point. And it's not that I don't believe you, it's just that my experience differs from yours. No right, no wrong, just different.

I have to wonder for pickups if it has more to do with weight than tires though...?
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:37 PM   #32
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Good point. And it's not that I don't believe you, it's just that my experience differs from yours. No right, no wrong, just different.

I have to wonder for pickups if it has more to do with weight than tires though...?
Honestly, it took me by suprise. Wierd thing about the big trucks is that they weigh a lot but don't seem to on ice or sand for instance. Could have something to do with 65 PSI in the tires? Don't really know. But it's very hard on the truck and it shakes like crazy while digging holes.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:26 PM   #33
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I've got 4X4 on my truck. It has come in handy getting the TT out of places after heavy rains and the ground got soft. But, whether you need 4X4, basically boils down to determining where you are going and the conditions you may be facing. We often camp, so we canoe or hike. Some of the put-ins or take-outs, we couldn't have gotten to without the 4X4 (not towing the TT into those places). I hear there can be a lot of mud to contend with in Alaska
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Old 11-22-2014, 09:27 PM   #34
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I like the option of having the low 4x4 gear. I have parked in some tight spots with soft ground and it is nice to be able to creep along.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:37 AM   #35
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I think it depends a lot on your driving habits. I have 4 wheel drive and actually got stuck in my own yard on the first day out of a two week trip. It had rained the night before and I was in the habit of driving around my house to get out. Did not work. I did not spin the tires much though to dig a hole. Had to get a local farmer with a big tractor to pull the truck and trailer out. Won't do that again. Have a different way out at my homestead now! I have been in several campsites where after a rain, I could have probably gotten out with 2 wheel drive, but would have made a mess of the campsite. I prefer to leave as few tracks and damage as possible. I also agree about when you get a 4 wheel stuck, it can be bad. That being said, need to know the limitations. Getting a two wheel drive stuck and getting it towed out by wrecker can almost pay for the 4 wheel drive addition at purchase. I think the original poster has made up his mind by now and some interesting tid bits posted here. Good reading. Myself, I will always go for the 4 wheel drive unit.
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Old 11-23-2014, 09:46 AM   #36
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Same as most others. I had 2WD and got stuck just pulling out of a grass spot after a rain. I bought 4WD when I traded and am glad I did. Yes, it still has limitations but I haven't been stuck yet in my 4WD.
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I think it depends a lot on your driving habits. I have 4 wheel drive and actually got stuck in my own yard on the first day out of a two week trip. It had rained the night before and I was in the habit of driving around my house to get out. Did not work. I did not spin the tires much though to dig a hole. Had to get a local farmer with a big tractor to pull the truck and trailer out. Won't do that again. Have a different way out at my homestead now! I have been in several campsites where after a rain, I could have probably gotten out with 2 wheel drive, but would have made a mess of the campsite. I prefer to leave as few tracks and damage as possible. I also agree about when you get a 4 wheel stuck, it can be bad. That being said, need to know the limitations. Getting a two wheel drive stuck and getting it towed out by wrecker can almost pay for the 4 wheel drive addition at purchase. I think the original poster has made up his mind by now and some interesting tid bits posted here. Good reading. Myself, I will always go for the 4 wheel drive unit.
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You can get stuck, so to speak, with a 4 wheel drive, the trick to easily getting unstuck is to turn off the VSC so you can get all 4wheels turning at once. It's a good thing when driving down an icy road but not when your in deep snow or mud.

You didn't have to worry about this issue with older 4 wheel trucks cause they didn't have VSC which i'm not really fond of.

Same goes for new cars, spinning in a bit of snow, can't go anywhere, turn off VSC.
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:44 PM   #38
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Sand driving is largely a psi game. When we drive on East coast beach, we drop psi to 5-8 and go on out. Out in Washington, we don't drop pressures much and stay on the hard pack. If you go to the beach and watch, locals run around in whatever they are in. They don't care about what tires they have much. They just know the terrain they are in.

Back to the subject, I suppose I am a bit old school, but I like a 4WD with manual hubs. I too use 4LO in many spots and having the hubs out makes it easier on the components and me.
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I have always towed with a 4x4. I have always lived in areas where snow comes in the winter. My theory is use it once and it's worth it. Kind of like having a 1 ton over a 3/4 ton truck. Might not really need it but sometimes worth it.
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