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Old 06-14-2015, 03:30 PM   #41
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:01 PM   #42
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Angry No Good Luck With My Tow Max

Our 2014 38FLFS came with E rated Tow Max tires . They had 3360 miles on them when we left Yuma, Az in April. We had only driven 25 miles when the right rear tire completely disintegrated leaving only wire on the rim. Upon stopping found the left rear had a bulge about the size of a football in the tread and sidewall. It took the fender and sheet metal off of the right side.

I always check and inflate the tires to 80 PSI before travel and tow at 62 MPH. This was in a 55MPH zone when they blew. Outside air temp was 100 degrees and the trailer was not over loaded. I have ordered a new 2016 38FLSA with Goodyear G614RST 14 ply tires on it and won't have any Chineese tires on it.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:14 PM   #43
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I did some extensive research on TM tires after reading many threads on JOF , and having them on my 30.5, wanted to understand the facts and separate the volume of reports from real info about conditions.

I was very surprise to learn that most tires, regardless of brand, are designed and engineered in one place ( U.S. , Canada, Europe ) then sent to China for production. Many of the off name brands, like TM, are made in the same factories as the big name brands.

Also found it interesting that the volume of government reports of fallures was not unbalanced. In many of the investigations the findings were : under inflation, over load, over speeds resulting in excessive heat and tried separation. This was generally true on all makes of tires that failed .

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Old 06-15-2015, 05:48 AM   #44
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Our 2014 38FLFS came with E rated Tow Max tires . They had 3360 miles on them when we left Yuma, Az in April. We had only driven 25 miles when the right rear tire completely disintegrated leaving only wire on the rim. Upon stopping found the left rear had a bulge about the size of a football in the tread and sidewall. It took the fender and sheet metal off of the right side.

I always check and inflate the tires to 80 PSI before travel and tow at 62 MPH. This was in a 55MPH zone when they blew. Outside air temp was 100 degrees and the trailer was not over loaded. I have ordered a new 2016 38FLSA with Goodyear G614RST 14 ply tires on it and won't have any Chineese tires on it.
The set of Goodyears that I have on right now were built in China!!! They have been trouble free.
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:19 AM   #45
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My thoughts on Chinese products are this: a customer of a Chinese manufacturer can specify the level of quality he wants in his product. I think overseas facilities are capable of produciing a quality product. There is just more profit to be had from the lower quality products. So most big buyers (Wallyworld etc.) go that way . Thats why imported stuff has such a bad rep.
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:47 AM   #46
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About 7500 miles on ours and so far so good. I was surprised that they are load range D, and each is rated for 2500 lbs, giving me 1500 lbs capacity above GVWR, and im no where near that. I'm also meticulous about pressure and speed.

That said, I'll be replacing them next spring as they will be four years old and about 10k miles by then and I don't want to have any issues.
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Old 06-15-2015, 06:59 AM   #47
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Seems like a couple of those with failures on the 235/80R16's were of the Pinnacle 5th Wheeler. I am pulling the 33.5RETS Eagle. I believe the weight is considerable less with the Eagle than the Pinnacle. The pinnacle could be very close to the max as far as weight carrying capacity. That could have something to do with the failures. Mine still look good after over 10,000 miles. Might add the build date was 8/13 on the tires.
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:39 AM   #48
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My thoughts on Chinese products are this: a customer of a Chinese manufacturer can specify the level of quality he wants in his product. I think overseas facilities are capable of produciing a quality product. There is just more profit to be had from the lower quality products. So most big buyers (Wallyworld etc.) go that way . Thats why imported stuff has such a bad rep.
I completely agree. We bought 2 Trek mountain bikes last year. They used to made in Wisconsin, but some years ago they moved production to China. Our bikes are the low end of the high end. Not expensive as far as bikes go, but not cheap when compared to the Walmart specials or a Schwinn. That said our bikes are well made and very durable.

Another example is Apple. While I won't buy Apple products, what they make is good quality and lot of their production is in China.
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:51 AM   #49
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We just returned from a trip of around 3500 miles with our Eagle Premier with the TM tires still on it. I think we have about 8000 miles all together on it and haven't had any issues with the tires. I keep the proper inflation, speed at 65, and stay off the curbs. I imagine when it is time I will go with something a little better.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:04 PM   #50
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We replaces one TM tire in March as it had a huge bubble on it. The inside belt was separating. Then on June 10th we had a blow out on our next trip. We then replaced all four TM. Found that the TM tires we took off our 5th wheel all have signs of belts separating. I tow at 60 to 65mph, always check the psi, do not hit curbs. We have a 2013 Jayco premier 321RLTS with 235/80R/16 tires. We also had damage to the rear slide where the tire blew. Now we have to put up with getting the repairs done, hopefully in a timely manner.
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