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Old 07-05-2016, 09:47 PM   #11
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If you are in Pasco, Washington, the 5th wheel has already had a 2000 mile highway shake-down during delivery from the Indiana plant. I vote for impact.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:07 PM   #12
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The dealership hasn't given us their final determination with their thoughts on the cause of the breakage, yet. The general mgr. indicated it might have been a heat issue (?) and would in that case most likely be covered by warranty. So we play the waiting game in the meantime. Thank you all that offered your input. It has been much appreciated!
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:34 PM   #13
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Wink I would swear it was Heat

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The dealership hasn't given us their final determination with their thoughts on the cause of the breakage, yet. The general mgr. indicated it might have been a heat issue (?) and would in that case most likely be covered by warranty. So we play the waiting game in the meantime. Thank you all that offered your input. It has been much appreciated!
I would insist it was heat related and should be covered. A hot rock from the highway is related to heat!

Seriously the glass could have been cut too large for the opening and forced into the gasket placing extra tension on it. If this was the case added heat and flex from traveling on the road would have made it shatter. I have seen glaziers do this force the glass into the gasket. They can cut the glass to size before it is tempered, afterwards if they cut it it will break.

I have also seen window openings that were cut to small and the glass guys force the window into the gasket. This is a common defect on mass produced fiberglass panels.

Good luck with it! I'd stay on the dealer and insist this was a defect, especially on a new trailer.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:57 AM   #14
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I would insist it was heat related and should be covered. A hot rock from the highway is related to heat!

Seriously the glass could have been cut too large for the opening and forced into the gasket placing extra tension on it. If this was the case added heat and flex from traveling on the road would have made it shatter. I have seen glaziers do this force the glass into the gasket. They can cut the glass to size before it is tempered, afterwards if they cut it it will break.

I have also seen window openings that were cut to small and the glass guys force the window into the gasket. This is a common defect on mass produced fiberglass panels.

Good luck with it! I'd stay on the dealer and insist this was a defect, especially on a new trailer.
But OP has "frameless" windows. The windows are actually mounted ON TOP of the frame, none of the forces you mention apply. And the breakage clearly all comes from the center of the window, evidenced by the glass around the perimeter being relatively intact.

No, I think "heat" breakage of this window is highly unlikely. Given two possible explanations, the simplest one is usually the best.

That being said, if the dealer can make a claim to Jayco based on "heat breakage" and they'll cover it? Well, obviously that's better than making an insurance claim.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:21 PM   #15
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I had the small side door window of my conversion van get blown out at highway speeds- my kid happened to see the rock take a bounce from a car ahead of us and curve right in. It happens. Had the window not been secured properly it would usually suck the whole glass out- I had that happen once when the glass installer didn't put in the locking strip after installing a new side window.
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Old 07-07-2016, 03:49 PM   #16
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We definitely appreciate all of you that took time to offer feedback through this forum! We are still waiting for a final answer but it is still sounding like they are calling it a heat issue. We should know more tomorrow. Hoping this was just a fluke occurrence and from here on out only smooth sailing with our beautiful new fifth wheel!
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Cool Frameless window

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But OP has "frameless" windows. The windows are actually mounted ON TOP of the frame, none of the forces you mention apply. And the breakage clearly all comes from the center of the window, evidenced by the glass around the perimeter being relatively intact.

No, I think "heat" breakage of this window is highly unlikely. Given two possible explanations, the simplest one is usually the best.

That being said, if the dealer can make a claim to Jayco based on "heat breakage" and they'll cover it? Well, obviously that's better than making an insurance claim.
A frame less window still has a window opening and a rubber gasket, unless it is glued in like auto windshield glass and yes it still is exposed to torsion and flex traveling down the road, myth busted.
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A frame less window still has a window opening and a rubber gasket, unless it is glued in like auto windshield glass and yes it still is exposed to torsion and flex traveling down the road, myth busted.
Still, and again, given two explanations, the simplest one is the most likely. Your explanation seems to be much less likely. Most situations like this are the result of flying debris; thus a much more likely explanation, even if I'm wrong about the window's ability to be flexed and broken.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but IMO it is less likely.
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Our rear window was so bound it wouldn't open or close. I can see how that with a bumped in the road would fracture the glass


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Do you like you frameless window ? I had the choice at one time and I decided to go with the regular window...I m always prudent with new stuff
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