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Old 10-11-2021, 07:02 PM   #1
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Can anything else break.

So while waiting for the parts to fix my catastrophic schwintec slide failure I find this. Figured I would Jack up FW, rotate tire, grease all wet bolts, adjust brakes, spin wheels add some grease and check everything out. So not only left rear wet bolt missing which jammed the leaf up into the hanger and bent it out, one other had the nut backed off. Went to tighten and threads are stripped. Took it out and inner metal bushing is half gone. So much for lasting wet bolts that have been greased more than needed. Just ordered four new wet bolts and bushings. Jayco service center replaced entire suspension in 2017 for a tire rub.
With suspension hanging I now find the center rubber suspension block failing. Everything was looked at just before my out west trip and was fine.
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Just be thankful you found it at home and not on the side of a busy highway. Getting it in for repairs will pose another problem….maybe a mobile welder could replace the bent spring hanger….
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:18 AM   #3
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I am curious if the alignment was ever checked? A miss-aligned axle can chew up tires and I assume do other bad things down there.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:32 AM   #4
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I have put about 30 k miles since Jayco service center replaced all the suspension. Tire wear has been great. They did new springs and a heavier Morryde rubber suspension. But I bet they use same wet bolts. Since they did this I could no longer grease without hanging the suspension. With the weight on wheels u cannot see the separation on the top of the rubber block. The weight closes it up and it look just like a small separation line which is normal. The right side has not been jacked enough to hang the suspension but it has a small separation line.
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That is just grim. I’d think about a different service center.
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I see jack under spring. I have had 2 manufactures and a few dealers say to always jack to the frame.
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FW is already on blocks front and back. Jack is just moving the axle. And I usually Jack under the spring to raise axle to adjust brakes or add grease spinning tire.
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Jayco only has one service center and I was not
Impressed with most of there repairs. Some were perfect others like kids work.
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Not many of the old RV Techs left in the business and having a hard time to train for that line of work because the pay is not all that good. It takes awhile to get good at it even after training. Another thing, the dealers want them to rush repairs and that always a bad ending.
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That’s quite the failure. Roads are so bad around most of the country. I wonder how that’s effecting all these RV’s. Get near any metropolitan area, and road quality just plummets.

I find something broken every trip. Nothing that’ll keep the trip from happening so far, but always something. When I open the RV after a few hundred miles, and the chain is wrapped around the ceiling fan, a picture is crooked on the wall, and I find my pantry has rearranged itself, I’m amazed the whole unit isn’t in pieces.
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for what there local dealers charge by the hour is outrageous, it's more than auto repair. The dealer here was $129.00 You would think they would pay there tech's a decent wage somewhere in the $30 range. I worked as an auto tech for 40 years and if I didn't ask for a raise every couple years they wouldn't offer me one. It's always about how much the dealer can keep in his pocket. If the pay $15 per hr that's the kind of service you get, that's how come I do all my own work at home.
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FW is already on blocks front and back. Jack is just moving the axle. And I usually Jack under the spring to raise axle to adjust brakes or add grease spinning tire.
Yes! I learned this from BigJohnD, a very useful trick!
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Yup. After this repair I am going to get some more 6x6s and cut them the length I need to get the FW up in the air. I am blocked up but just have to Jack each wheel a bit to get tire off the ground. Front is held up by 6x6 s and I have landing gear fully retracted but legs down as a back up. Same got the back but big Jack stands aft of jacks. Next time I want to just raise LG way up and put cut 6x6 s under than Jack back each side a few times to get wheels off ground than place 6x6s and use level jacks just off ground as a back up.
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I see jack under spring. I have had 2 manufactures and a few dealers say to always jack to the frame.
It’s okay to jack under axle spring packs. Also the grease holes on wet bolts should be placed at the 3 or 9 o’clock position to allow greasing with weight on axles. I put blue loctite on wet bolt nuts
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Mine broke while at a rv park. Welder came out and fixed it. Added 2 extra supports to make sure it didn't happen again.
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I've seen this type of failure on other trailers/fifth wheels. A few manufacturers are adding a square gusset in the middle to tie both sides together. If you would look straight up at it from the bottom it would appear like the letter I.
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It is enough to make you cry. Repair things yourself is the only way to go now days. I found a spring shackle bolt rubbing through my black tank this past summer, on a brand new rig. I cut the end of the bolt off to make some clearence.
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So I just ordered the heavy duty Morryde wet bolt kit with 1/2 inch thick shackles. This is the good side rear leaf first one pulled. Half the bushing is totally gone wore away. Now I know what happened to left side one it was bolt failure. That bushing probably wore completely away letting the spring beat on bolt till it failed. I also can see the rubber spring shackles starting to bow. Now I know why the went to 1/2 inch. So I guess it is safe to say every 20 k miles your wet bolt bushings will need replacement. Nice having FW jacked and blocked totally off the ground. Also have jacks just lightly touching ground for a back up.
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Does not look like the bad bronze wet bolt bushing was ever greased.
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I cleaned it up for the photo. These wet bolts have been greased until clean grease comes out twice yearly. I have already been thru two rolls of paper towels cleaning the grease dirt off of all the shackles.
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