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Old 12-11-2012, 02:56 PM   #1
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Changing from a TT to 5th wheel

We have a 2012 White Hawk 27 DSRL TT that we pull with a Nissan Titan. The PU pulls the TT very well but does like gas. 9.5 mpg. We have had the TT for one year and took a three month trip from Florida to Maine and do love the TT. However we noted a lot of 5th wheels on our trip and the ease of backing in and unhooking. We are now thinking of trading in our TT for a Jayco Eagle HT 26.5 with rear living. Anyone out their have one or have any thoughts for us on making the move to a 5th wheel as we are leaving for a trip from Florida to the NE over six months in April of 2013.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:14 PM   #2
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The Eagle HT's are nice FW's, and do weigh less than the other Eagle models.

Since you already have the TV of choice, I would load it up (fuel, passengers, cargo) and go to a CAT scale for a simple weigh-in ($9). You can compare the CAT scale weights with your TV's rear GAWR and GVWR, then you will know how much FW you can tow and support over the TV's rear axle. Keep in mind that the recommended loaded FW pin weight is 15% to 25% of the loaded FW weight (unlike 10% to 15% on TT's), but most FW folks use 20% as the target pin weight.

As you are aware we tend to tow heavier on the extended trips, so keep this in mind when you estimate your loaded FW weights.

Sounds like a nice trip planned, enjoy!

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:28 PM   #3
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As suggested, do some comparing of towing capacity statistics on your tv. You fuel economy will not change with a 5er.

Get some real info on loaded weights from owners of the fifth wheel you are considering. Remember to allow for cargo capacity and tongue weight of the fifth wheel.
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Norty1 "You fuel economy will not change with a 5er."

Really, I always assumed TT & 5er with the same weight and over all length MPG would decrease in the 5er simply for the extra frontal area?
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:47 PM   #5
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I agree the frontal area increase will decrease your milage- JMHO- DD
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Norty1 "You fuel economy will not change with a 5er."

Really, I always assumed TT & 5er with the same weight and over all length MPG would decrease in the 5er simply for the extra frontal area?
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The Eagle HT's are nice FW's, and do weigh less than the other Eagle models.

Since you already have the TV of choice, I would load it up (fuel, passengers, cargo) and go to a CAT scale for a simple weigh-in ($9). You can compare the CAT scale weights with your TV's rear GAWR and GVWR, then you will know how much FW you can tow and support over the TV's rear axle. Keep in mind that the recommended loaded FW pin weight is 15% to 25% of the loaded FW weight (unlike 10% to 15% on TT's), but most FW folks use 20% as the target pin weight.

As you are aware we tend to tow heavier on the extended trips, so keep this in mind when you estimate your loaded FW weights.

Sounds like a nice trip planned, enjoy!

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I too am thinking of trading in my TT for a FW. Still owe on the TT, but I like the 26.5 HT. I have a 2500 Dodge Ram diesel truck as my TV. Don't know anything about the hitch for the FW.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:22 AM   #7
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Not to say it will not change, just that it would not be the prime reason to change to a fifth wheel. I have pulled 5 different fifth wheels with my present truck and the fuel economy is not significantly different. Never pulled a TT with it. Of course with a diesel that is pretty normal.

Head winds can make a huge difference in economy.
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I get the same fuel economy towing my 15,000 lb 5th wheel as I did with my previous 9,000 lb trailer behind my diesel truck.
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I actually got better gas milage with my 5th wheel then with my TT...go figure :-)
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I get the same fuel economy towing my 15,000 lb 5th wheel as I did with my previous 9,000 lb trailer behind my diesel truck.
Me too... BUT I love the way the 5er tows. I really hated and dreaded the days on the road with the TT as compared to the 5er.
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