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Old 09-17-2014, 09:04 PM   #1
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Considering a fifth wheel

Hi everybody, my wife and I have had our Jay Flight for about a year and a half now and we love it! But since she is pretty long (35 ft), she is a handful to pull in a small wind than not I've noticed, even with the sway bar tightened. We've been looking at a fifth wheel and I wanted to know if it's easier to pull than a travel trailer. I've heard that it is, and it's simpler to hook up as well.

I also wanted to get an opinion of a good model that Jayco makes in a fifth wheel. The trailer we have right now is a rear living so it has two hide a beds that are decent but it makes a mess of the living room when we have to unfold them. That being said, we are pondering the idea of a bunkhouse, specifically the Eagle 34.5 BHTS. What are your thoughts?

Should we go for a fifth wheel if it's easier to tow? Or is there something I can do to make my Jay Flight easier to pull in a slight breeze?
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:21 PM   #2
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IMO get a better hitch with integrated sway control.

If my max loaded rav4 doesn't move in the wind yours shouldn't either.

Those tighten down types of friction sway bars are pointless IMO

plus it is a lot cheaper then the losses incurred to dump a fairly new unit.
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We have the same trailer and tow it with a Ford Excursion. We do not have any problems with sway in wind. When 18 wheelers pass me by The truck may move 1/4 inch to the left but thats t. I can run down the highway with one hand on the wheel, if I wanted. I think maybe your hitch might be out of wack somehow. One time coming back home we had a side wind about 35-40 mph and the trailer moved a little but not much. Not all over the road. Take the truck and trailer to somebody else and see if they can readjust it. That might be cheaper than buying a new fiver.
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snip..... Or is there something I can do to make my Jay Flight easier to pull in a slight breeze?
Shouldn't be experiencing sway with a slight breeze under any circumstances, and the root cause could be a number of possibilities (representative of):

* Underrated WDH, and/or not adjusted correctly (WDH should be rated at 1,400lbs minimum).
* WDH manufactures recommend using (2) manual friction sway control bars when exceeding 26ft TT length, one won't manage a sway event.
* Loaded tongue weight should be 13% to 15% of TT loaded weight on a 35ft TT, anything less sway potential increases.
* TT should tow level, or a little nose down. Nose up and sway potential increases.
* Under inflated TV or TT tires.

The 33RLDS is a heavy and long TT...., IMO a WDH with integrated sway control is highly recommended, like the Reese Strait Line WDH or the Equal-i-zer brand WDH.

Just food for thought.

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I agree upgrading to a quality WD system/sway control that is properly adjusted would be the easiest and cheapest fix.
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Tongue weight.. best anti sway device out there...
are your weight bars set tight enough..
lastly how fast are you going? ST tires are only rated to 65 mph and going over that can cause all kinds of problems one of them being sway..
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Reading these replies, I am also wondering if I should look into upgrading my hitch setup. The one that the dealer sold us with the TT is probably at the lower end.

Rustic Eagle stated * WDH manufactures recommend using (2) manual friction sway control bars when exceeding 26ft TT length, one won't manage a sway event."

If that is the case then my 30' is in serious need of an upgrade.. I HATE getting on the highway because of the sway.. We have to tighten the 1 sway bar as tight as it will go and then release it when we get to the campground (to make the tight turns).

I have a Ultra-Fab WDH and Husky Towing anti-sway bar. http://www.ultra-fab.com/new_detail....gnum=35-946226

So I guess my question is.. in your opinions should I add a second friction style anti-sway bar on the other side of my hitch or should I upgrade to completely new system.. My biggest problem is spending $1500 + on a new system..

Also, does anyone know if there is a WDH/Anti-sway poll?
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Reading these replies, I am also wondering if I should look into upgrading my hitch setup. The one that the dealer sold us with the TT is probably at the lower end.

Rustic Eagle stated * WDH manufactures recommend using (2) manual friction sway control bars when exceeding 26ft TT length, one won't manage a sway event."

If that is the case then my 30' is in serious need of an upgrade.. I HATE getting on the highway because of the sway.. We have to tighten the 1 sway bar as tight as it will go and then release it when we get to the campground (to make the tight turns).

I have a Ultra-Fab WDH and Husky Towing anti-sway bar. http://www.ultra-fab.com/new_detail....gnum=35-946226

So I guess my question is.. in your opinions should I add a second friction style anti-sway bar on the other side of my hitch or should I upgrade to completely new system.. My biggest problem is spending $1500 + on a new system..

Also, does anyone know if there is a WDH/Anti-sway poll?

scrap it all and buy an Equal-i-zer hitch. they are not that expensive

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/catalog...y-control.html
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Hi everybody, my wife and I have had our Jay Flight for about a year and a half now and we love it! But since she is pretty long (35 ft), she is a handful to pull in a small wind than not I've noticed, even with the sway bar tightened. We've been looking at a fifth wheel and I wanted to know if it's easier to pull than a travel trailer. I've heard that it is, and it's simpler to hook up as well.

I also wanted to get an opinion of a good model that Jayco makes in a fifth wheel. The trailer we have right now is a rear living so it has two hide a beds that are decent but it makes a mess of the living room when we have to unfold them. That being said, we are pondering the idea of a bunkhouse, specifically the Eagle 34.5 BHTS. What are your thoughts?

Should we go for a fifth wheel if it's easier to tow? Or is there something I can do to make my Jay Flight easier to pull in a slight breeze?
I'll go into the 5'er vs TT since it seems you are getting all the right advise on your current WDH setup and quick inexpensive fixes that might sway you to keep your current rig.

The unit you are looking at is nice, but if you are more that 5'11" you are going to hate the foward sleeping area for you and your better half. If your less than that then not an issue. The premiers offer 80" and the Eagles only 72". IMHO they should be the same as those 8" are alot when it comes to taller owners.

As far as towing goes, yes they handle well and do not sway at all. But if you have the right setup on your TT a good argument can be made that it's almost the same and negligible. That being said, hookup is easier for sure on the 5'ers IMHO. Overall length will decrease vs a comparable length TT since you are going over your TV. Turning you will have to adjust to and you also have to consider your clearances both for storage and possibly getting to some of your favorite CG's as you will gain 2ft+.

If your TV is a shortbed then you will need a slide hitch in most cases and these cost more. Other than that it becomes a personal preference on what you want. Bunkhouses are limited in the 5'ers, but rear livers are abundant in layout choices. If you only use the extra beds a few times a year then I would go with the RL and enjoy the added living space.
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Also, does anyone know if there is a WDH/Anti-sway poll?
https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/sh...highlight=poll
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