Eagle 355 MBQS weight

[campingn.c.]

We're possibly looking at ordering a 355 soon. I was wondering if anyone was pulling one with a 2500/250 ? I know it'll be close as the numbers go. RAWR will be fine though. I've got a 2015 Ram 2500.
Has anyone who owns one actually had it on the scales yet?
Thanks.

[Subaru297]

What is the payload capacity for your truck? Looking at the specs of that trailer is lists a 2340lbs dry hitch weight. A loaded hitch weight for that trailer will probably be around 3000lbs.
I would be surprised if your 3/4 ton diesel has the payload to handle that trailer.

Your payload should be on a drivers side doorjamb sticker that also has your recommended tire pressure on it.

[dalebra]

The 355 is a bit too much payload weight for most 3/4 ton trucks.

I have a 2015 2500HD CC Duramax and if I add the weight of the hitch and people in the truck I'm pushing it with my 2015 323LKTS.

I would recommend upgrading to a 1 ton or downsizing on the Eagle.

[UncleMan]

Originally Posted by campingn.c.

We're possibly looking at ordering a 355 soon. I was wondering if anyone was pulling one with a 2500/250 ? I know it'll be close as the numbers go. RAWR will be fine though. I've got a 2015 Ram 2500.
Has anyone who owns one actually had it on the scales yet?
Thanks.

We've got a 17' Eagle 5er 355MBQS, and I tow it with a 16' Silverado Dmax 2500 CC std box hooked up to a Reese Titan 16k slider. No problems whatsover for us, I've never had it on the scale though. A friend of ours bought a 17' Eagle 5er 317RLOK and pulls it with a 14' Dodge Cummins 2500 CC std box. He says he gets some "rocking" at times, perhaps due to the coil spring suspension vs. leaf spring?? He's installing airbags. Hope that helps! We love the floorplan by the way, you won't be disappointed if you purchase it. Good luck and happy camping!

[dalebra]

Originally Posted by UncleMan

We've got a 17' Eagle 5er 355MBQS, and I tow it with a 16' Silverado Dmax 2500 CC std box hooked up to a Reese Titan 16k slider. No problems whatsover for us, I've never had it on the scale though. A friend of ours bought a 17' Eagle 5er 317RLOK and pulls it with a 14' Dodge Cummins 2500 CC std box. He says he gets some "rocking" at times, perhaps due to the coil spring suspension vs. leaf spring?? He's installing airbags. Hope that helps! We love the floorplan by the way, you won't be disappointed if you purchase it. Good luck and happy camping!

I'm no expert but you are most likely overloaded and won't realize it until you have some mechanical failures. Do your self a favor and get to a scale and compare to what the tag says for payload inside the door jamb of the drivers door of your truck.

[M109pilot]

I have a 355mbqs and towed it with a 2014 f250. It towed great but was just over the gvwr for the truck. Because of an incredible deal and being able to sell my f250, I moved into a f350 long bed that fell even better.

Jason

[UncleMan]

Originally Posted by dalebra

I'm no expert but you are most likely overloaded and won't realize it until you have some mechanical failures. Do your self a favor and get to a scale and compare to what the tag says for payload inside the door jamb of the drivers door of your truck.

You're correct, we are over payload according to our door tag (2318lbs). We knew that going into it, and took everything into consideration. I will tell you why I did it though....Dry hitch weight of the 355 (when we purchased) was 2265lbs dry (changed to 2515lbs dry after purchase). I may have reconsidered had I been given the proper hitch weight from Jayco, that's too little too late though. Moving on....We travel with 3 passengers when we tow (350lbs avg), and put absolutely nothing in our truck bed. My hitch weighs around 85lbs. I had originally figured I'd be over payload by around 500-600lbs when loaded down. I was ok with that being the hitch sits directly over my axle, and we're not over the 10k GVWR. I will argue the mechanical issues with you though, there's virtually no mechanical differences between a 16' 2500SRW and 3500SRW Dmax. Same powerplant, Allison transmission, and rear end. They're an identical truck, in a nut shell, with minor differences in suspension and braking. My truck is also equipped with the exhaust brake which comes in very handy for steep grades.

[FishAr]

Originally Posted by UncleMan

You're correct, we are over payload according to our door tag (2318lbs). We knew that going into it, and took everything into consideration. I will tell you why I did it though....Dry hitch weight of the 355 (when we purchased) was 2265lbs dry (changed to 2515lbs dry after purchase). I may have reconsidered had I been given the proper hitch weight from Jayco, that's too little too late though. Moving on....We travel with 3 passengers when we tow (350lbs avg), and put absolutely nothing in our truck bed. My hitch weighs around 85lbs. I had originally figured I'd be over payload by around 500-600lbs when loaded down. I was ok with that being the hitch sits directly over my axle, and we're not over the 10k GVWR. I will argue the mechanical issues with you though, there's virtually no mechanical differences between a 16' 2500SRW and 3500SRW Dmax. Same powerplant, Allison transmission, and rear end. They're an identical truck, in a nut shell, with minor differences in suspension and braking. My truck is also equipped with the exhaust brake which comes in very handy for steep grades.

What are the differences in braking? I was under the impression that the only difference was one leaf spring on each side of the rear.

[campingn.c.]

Originally Posted by UncleMan

We've got a 17' Eagle 5er 355MBQS, and I tow it with a 16' Silverado Dmax 2500 CC std box hooked up to a Reese Titan 16k slider. No problems whatsover for us, I've never had it on the scale though. A friend of ours bought a 17' Eagle 5er 317RLOK and pulls it with a 14' Dodge Cummins 2500 CC std box. He says he gets some "rocking" at times, perhaps due to the coil spring suspension vs. leaf spring?? He's installing airbags. Hope that helps! We love the floorplan by the way, you won't be disappointed if you purchase it. Good luck and happy camping!

I actually get that 'rocking' feeling sometimes towing our TT and even empty. I think it's just the nature of the beast with the coils.
At least with the Rams the 2500-3500 are the exact same minus the rear suspension.
I know I'll be over on the CC with the pin weight but should be well under RAWR, the number that's far more important to me.
If I stayed purely within the cargo capacity numbers my current travel trailer and gear would put me over, so I'm not completely concerned with that number.

[fljl]

Originally Posted by FishAr

What are the differences in braking? I was under the impression that the only difference was one leaf spring on each side of the rear.

That is what I was told and here are pics, one extra spring.

[hunter444]

We have a 2016 355MBQS.Towing with the Silverado2500HD,Diesel. So far 7500 mile no issues whatsoever. Our last rig a Thor,Kingston model 5th wheel,had the same weights and travelled over 20,000 miles half out west.(mountain driving).The truck is a 2009 model short bed.

[UncleMan]

Originally Posted by FishAr

What are the differences in braking? I was under the impression that the only difference was one leaf spring on each side of the rear.

That may be true, and probably is.

[UncleMan]

Originally Posted by campingn.c.

I actually get that 'rocking' feeling sometimes towing our TT and even empty. I think it's just the nature of the beast with the coils.
At least with the Rams the 2500-3500 are the exact same minus the rear suspension.
I know I'll be over on the CC with the pin weight but should be well under RAWR, the number that's far more important to me.
If I stayed purely within the cargo capacity numbers my current travel trailer and gear would put me over, so I'm not completely concerned with that number.

Yeah, I think you're right on the coil "rocking". Dodge was just trying to make a smooth ride with a 2500, which I believe the coil springs accomplish. It's just a different tow that people aren't used to. I think you're more than fine with your set up, I'd tow that with no worries. My buddy tows a Carbon toy hauler (3200lb hitch weight) with a 15' Dodge 2500 Cummins crew cab 4x4 w/air bags and has no problems. I told him he was nuts, but he did it anyways. lol

[Hoppy220]

The biggest difference in the 2500 dmax and the 3500 dmax is the factory tire size. 2500 comes factory 245 tire rated at 3040 lbs hence the 6080 grawr. The 3500 comes with 265 and a helper spring. 265 tires are rated 3450 giving the 1 ton (3500) 6900 grawr. My 2 cents, upgrade you tires to handle the weight, add air bags if that makes you feel better, and happy camping.

Frame, axles, brakes, calipers, rotors, all the same part number on these two trucks. It's a derating game played by the manufacturer for sales and taxing purposes. Alot of states, I know Ohio for sure, tags go way up for the 1 ton.

If one person on this forum can give me a personal account, not a "Billy bobs second cousins wife's sisters mother" knew a guy who got a ticket, or got sued due to an accident because they had a 16000 lb fifth wheel behind a 2500 truck then I may change my tune, maybe.

[Hoppy220]

Just realized op said he has a dodge 2500, sorry can't tell you if they are the same or not. Guess I picked up someone else's comment on the Chevy dmax.

[UncleMan]

Originally Posted by Hoppy220

The biggest difference in the 2500 dmax and the 3500 dmax is the factory tire size. 2500 comes factory 245 tire rated at 3040 lbs hence the 6080 grawr. The 3500 comes with 265 and a helper spring. 265 tires are rated 3450 giving the 1 ton (3500) 6900 grawr. My 2 cents, upgrade you tires to handle the weight, add air bags if that makes you feel better, and happy camping.

Frame, axles, brakes, calipers, rotors, all the same part number on these two trucks. It's a derating game played by the manufacturer for sales and taxing purposes. Alot of states, I know Ohio for sure, tags go way up for the 1 ton.

If one person on this forum can give me a personal account, not a "Billy bobs second cousins wife's sisters mother" knew a guy who got a ticket, or got sued due to an accident because they had a 16000 lb fifth wheel behind a 2500 truck then I may change my tune, maybe.

I have the 20" 265's on my 2500, so basically the only other difference for me is the extra leaf spring.

[campingn.c.]

The RAM 2500 to 3500 are identical minus the rear suspension. The 2500 has a coil setup vs. traditional leafs on the 3500.

[oh355mbqs]

Watching yhis thread because despite my name, we have a 355MBQS on order. Just bought my truck in July, I went with the 3500 SRW because of payload. Mine has a payload of 3500 (actually 34??, cant remeber exactly, but basically 3500). I figure with hitch, 4 people in the truck etc, I will be close to being over payload. Hoppy, I'm guessing you are in Ohio, I am also, my plates for the 1 ton were only $35 more per year than my 2500. Just had to sign a paper saying it's not used for commercial

[Mark464]

I've got a 2500hd and added air bags. Pulls fine

[ZooSax]

We are looking to upgrade in the very near future to a 355 MBQS. Additionally we will upgrade our tow vehicle as well. Will the 2500 HD Duramax be sufficient for that fifth wheel. I'm trying to get a grasp on the pin weight and cargo weight. Does the weight of this trailer put you near the maximum tow capacity of this truck? We are in Nebraska but we travel to Colorado and Utah. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.