Eagle HT 27.5 rlts and half ton trucks

[godawgs]

I pull a 31.5 FBHS Jayco with a F150 ecoboost with no problem but I did add air bags. Message me if you have any questions.

[citgodan]

good to hear godwads. What year is the trailer and the truck?

[citgodan]

oops godawgs

[godawgs]

2011 Ford F150 and 2015 Jayco Eagle

[jco83]

I have a 2014 27.5 rlts that I tow with a 2006 Chevy 1500 with a 5.3L. I have added booster springs in the rear and changed the rear end gearing to a 3:73 ratio. The truck tows it with no problems and towed my old 2007 5er just fine also. Newer trucks have better rating so you might not need the mods on you truck. keep in mind you can always upgrade your TV.

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by citgodan

Thanks for all the inputs guys. I probably will start out using my current F150, and if not functional or don't like the ride, then I might go up and get the new F150, which weight-wise it will handle.

I am in flat Florida, so again hills are not my issue. This thread was started out for the guys who currently have the f150/1500 and eagle HT 27.5 rlts combo - I wanted their feedback.

thanks to all who chimed in.

If you do a rough calculation by dividing the dry pin by the dry weight and multiplying by the GVW, you'll get 1644 lbs. Add full fuel, 2 passengers and a hitch, and you're likely over your truck's payload, and that's with no "stuff" in the cab or bed. Again, this is =at= GVW=. Don't know what the RAWR and tire ratings are, but likely over that, too. Don't let the HT fool you; with FWs it's not what you can TOW, it's what you can CARRY. Now, the '15/'16 models would likely handle this without a problem, but a '12? Eh... This is coming from a guy who used to tow 20,000 lb fertilizer trailers with a '48 GMC 1000 series, with no trailer brakes, when he was a kid, so I know sumpin' about heavy trailers. :-) It can be done, but be =damn= careful. Legally, if you're in an accident, it's roll the bones as to liability and insurance coverage if they decide you're overweight, even if it's the other guy's fault.

Lyle

[AJP207]

Originally Posted by TWP723

It'll give me your vitals. Engine size, rear, coolers, suspension grade, etc etc.

My VIN is BFC57104, 2011 Ford 5.0, extended cab F-150, 6.5 bed, GVWR 7200, Frt Axel 3750, Rear Axel 3850, 3.73 rear end

Axel code L6 (have no idea what this means)

Thinking of pulling a 2016 JAYCO RLTS 27.5-Dry weight approximately 8100 lbs before water, clothes, equipment etc.

Could not locate the payload on the sticker, any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated, especially payload.

Thanks so much for your time.

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by AJP207

My VIN is BFC57104, 2011 Ford 5.0, extended cab F-150, 6.5 bed, GVWR 7200, Frt Axel 3750, Rear Axel 3850, 3.73 rear end

Axel code L6 (have no idea what this means)

Thinking of pulling a 2016 JAYCO RLTS 27.5-Dry weight approximately 8100 lbs before water, clothes, equipment etc.

Could not locate the payload on the sticker, any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated, especially payload.

Thanks so much for your time.

The numbers on the 2016 changed a fair bit from 2015.

GVW remains 9950.

Dry weight
2015 - 7625
2016 - 7880

Dry pin
2015 - 1260
2016 - 1525 - BIG change

Dry axle
2015 - 6365
2016 - 6355

Cargo capacity
2015 - 2325
2016 - 2070 - BIG change

Calculated pin weight at GVW
2015 - 1644
2016 - 1926 - another BIG change

This last, in my mind, takes this rig right out of 1/2 ton range, no matter what the factory says. My 11,300 GVW Komfort has a pin weight about the same as this. Until and unless we get some real-world weights, this is all we can go on.

Lyle

[Flapper]

I wouldn't do it.
I have the rig in my signature. Pulling is great! But my fifth is smaller/lighter than the one you are looking at AND I have the max tow and max payload package, which is critical. I have gone over the mountains to both coasts, without an issue up or down - with the Ecoboost I can blow past any truck or camper laboring up the mountain I want. (But I hardly ever do).
However, we pack really light. And I do mean really light. And we are just at the edge of the max payload the truck is rated for, which is significantly more than yours. That's with two adults and two medium dogs, and only the bare minimum of anything else in the truck. We got the lightest hitch we could find.

With the 5.0 you probably will pull just fine. But your truck is just not equipped to handle the weight in the bed. Tires, suspension, etc. will all be very overloaded.

[AJP207]

Camping world is telling me the Pin Weight on the 2016 27.5 RLST is 1525, guess I'll have to contact Jayco, where did you get your information?

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by AJP207

Camping world is telling me the Pin Weight on the 2016 27.5 RLST is 1525, guess I'll have to contact Jayco, where did you get your information?

Jayco's web site, under the 2016 Eagle HT listings. 1525 is the DRY pin wt. Don't know about you, but I carry stuff with me when I camp. Food, water, clothes, dishes... All that adds to the load on both the axles and pin.

Lyle

[Ont Pete]

FYI dry weights in brochure is always low. If you are using those numbers and are at all close expect to be over when you actually weigh the unit.

[AJP207]

Originally Posted by LAKnox

Jayco's web site, under the 2016 Eagle HT listings. 1525 is the DRY pin wt. Don't know about you, but I carry stuff with me when I camp. Food, water, clothes, dishes... All that adds to the load on both the axles and pin.

Lyle

Ok, built the following on shop.ford.com

Ford SuperCrew
6-1/2' bed
4X4 Drive
3.5L V6 EcoBoost® Engine
3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
6-Speed Automatic Transmission
Max. When Properly Equipped
Payload: 2,650 lbs Towing: 11,500 lbs

My dealer, who I have been with a long time, says the ECOBoost is a better haul unit then the Ford 250 described below with 3100 Payload and 12,100 Towing.

SuperCrew Super Duty F250
6-3/4' Bed
4X4 Drive
6.2L 2 Valve Flex Fuel V8 Gas Engine
Wheelbase: 156"
Rear Wheel Options: SRW
3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
TorqShift® 6-Speed SelectShift Automatic® O/D w/6.2L
Max. When Properly Equipped
Payload: 3,100 lbs Towing: 12,100 lbs

I would be hauling a 27.5 RLST Jayco, 8130 lbs., (from the yellow sticker on the unit after manufacture) plus cargo of 1800 lbs so around 10,000 lbs.

So what do you think? Super Duty or ECOboost.

LAKNOX, Flapper, or whomever-what is the payload and stats for your Ecoboost

[RSerendipity]

Something to remember, there are big differences between the F150 & F-250. Stronger Frame, Heavier Suspension components, Stronger Drive shafts, Stronger Axles, etc. on the F250/350. Yes, your mileage may suffer, but the F250, 350 & 450s are built to be Tough!

I have never driven an 150 EcoBoost but as my Sig shows I do have a F250 and do not regret going to that size for all of the above reasons.

[Flapper]

What you outlined, except 2,200 lbs payload, 11,200 towing (non-aluminum body), so was the biggest/baddest available at the time. I needed a daily driver, so the F-150 was the compromise. Next truck will probably be like the 250 you outlined. Love the Ecoboost, but also want/need the additional carrying capacity.
(Just so we're clear - milage in the Eco towing is not fantastic - I run about 10-10.5 in my long trips to all 3 coasts. But having it run 17-20 off tow, which is the primary use for it otherwise, has been great.) Having enough "grunt" to tow? - either will do the job very well!
You should get the 250, given you're towing more than I am.

[lovetocamp4660]

I got the same trailer this year and I have f250 2010 with for package 5.4 engine. Power train does OK but I did add airbags to the rear. It shutter a bit on starts but after airbags and leveling truck it does good now. Set my cruise at 70 on ny state thruway and no problems at all. Tranny temp never went above normal.

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by AJP207

Ok, built the following on shop.ford.com

Ford SuperCrew
6-1/2' bed
4X4 Drive
3.5L V6 EcoBoost® Engine
3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
6-Speed Automatic Transmission
Max. When Properly Equipped
Payload: 2,650 lbs Towing: 11,500 lbs

My dealer, who I have been with a long time, says the ECOBoost is a better haul unit then the Ford 250 described below with 3100 Payload and 12,100 Towing.

SuperCrew Super Duty F250
6-3/4' Bed
4X4 Drive
6.2L 2 Valve Flex Fuel V8 Gas Engine
Wheelbase: 156"
Rear Wheel Options: SRW
3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
TorqShift® 6-Speed SelectShift Automatic® O/D w/6.2L
Max. When Properly Equipped
Payload: 3,100 lbs Towing: 12,100 lbs

I would be hauling a 27.5 RLST Jayco, 8130 lbs., (from the yellow sticker on the unit after manufacture) plus cargo of 1800 lbs so around 10,000 lbs.

So what do you think? Super Duty or ECOboost.

LAKNOX, Flapper, or whomever-what is the payload and stats for your Ecoboost

Remember, =published= specs are for a base truck, single cab, 2wd, 1 150 lb driver and full fuel. The =only= way to know for sure, is to check the door sticker on a =specific= truck. Passengers, hitches, hitch, "stuff", all are part of the payload and you have to take those off the available payload to find the =net= payload for what weight pin you can carry. Personally, towing something this heavy with a 150/1500, while you might be able to do it, you likely won't be comfortable. Having the heavier suspension, axles and tires of a 250/2500 is just much more desirable. That floating axle =alone= is worth it, IMO. I've been in a vehicle that broke an axle and watched a wheel go spinning off into the weeds.

Lyle

[LAKnox]

Originally Posted by lovetocamp4660

I got the same trailer this year and I have f250 2010 with for package 5.4 engine. Power train does OK but I did add airbags to the rear. It shutter a bit on starts but after airbags and leveling truck it does good now. Set my cruise at 70 on ny state thruway and no problems at all. Tranny temp never went above normal.

Hope you have LT's on your FW if you're cruising around at 70 mph. ST's are speed limited to 65 mph in almost all cases. The Carlisle RH is limited to 80-something, but that's the only ST I've seen that has that high a rating.

Lyle