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10-27-2020, 07:05 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: WEEKI WACHEE
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Faded Front Cap Option
Sorry this will be so long. For those of you with a faded front cap, I have a 2018 28.5 RSTS and I have had fade from the top about half way down. Every 4-6 weeks I've gotten up a ladder, used Mother's CMX ceramic wax with an applicator and a lot of elbow grease to take off some oxidation. Although not perfect it did bring back some color. My intention was at some point breaking down and paying to have it painted.
While making a last ditch effort, I search youtube videos again and found a guy that recommended using Mcguiars marine/rv 1 step compound #67 with a polisher and then putting Mcguiars Marine Flagship wax on afterwords. After seeing his results I thought I would try it.
I went to Harbor Freight and bought their $40.00 polisher along with a 5 pack of wool buffer pads. I used the compound on the cap and believe it or not it brought the cap back to looking like it came out of the factory, nice and shiny. I then applied the wax to give the finish some protection. I am very happy with the finish ed results. Unfortunately I did burn a small section of the decals but I can live with that.
Here are some photos of the finish results.
1st photo is what it looked like after I put on the Mother's ceramic wax 2 weeks ago. Photos 2-5 are the finish results after applying the Mcguiars products. I hope it will have a longer shine then waxing it every 4-5 weeks. I hope this helps folks that think all is lost to the fading.
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10-27-2020, 07:33 PM
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Site Team
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Nice.
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10-27-2020, 08:26 PM
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Thank you
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10-27-2020, 09:13 PM
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Site Team
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That looks really nice. You can detail our TT any time you want!
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10-27-2020, 09:15 PM
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LOL. Thank you
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10-27-2020, 10:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Meridian
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Looks great. I have used the Mcguiars marine and it works great. As a note I also use Starbrite Cleaner wax designed for fiberglass boats with teflon in it. I apply it and do a second coat after a few weeks. It lasts for a long time. You can find it at most Walmarts in the boat section. That was on our old Snowbird F/W. Sold it recently and purchased a 2015 Jayco 24FBS metal siding. On the I have coated it with the CMX you mentioned mainly an effort to keep the graphics coated with a non wax material and then to re-coat it with the Mcguiars or the Starbrite. Premium Cleaner Wax
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10-28-2020, 05:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Somerset
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It looks nice now but IMO wont last. What is happening is the clear coat is disappearing causing that bad look. When you aggressively buff it to get it to shine you will be removing even more clear coat and the area will keep getting bigger. The only way to truly stop this is to re clear it before it gets into the paint or gel coat. Then its game over at that point. Front caps are made in a mold. The first thing sprayed in the mold is the clear coat, then the paint color then the gel coat. So once the clear is gone which usually doesnt take long you start having issues. Time will tell if I am right but thats what happened to me in 2 years of owning a 2017 28.5 RSTS. I re cleared my front cap and it still looks great after 10,000 miles and a little over a year now.
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10-28-2020, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Riverside
Posts: 323
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Anybody look into a product called Clear Bar?
Marko
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10-29-2020, 06:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Somerset
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Clear bra looks interesting. Hey hows your clear covering working?
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10-29-2020, 06:52 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Riverside
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Jim
I just waxed again three coats. All went well. The clear vinyl is still looking great. I want to do the whole cap now or as much as possible with the clear vinyl Diamond Shield or Clear Bar.
Thanks,
Marko
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10-29-2020, 08:31 AM
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Senior Member
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Good deal, Thanks
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10-29-2020, 12:43 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Riverside
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Jim
Are you headed to Florida this year?
Marko
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10-29-2020, 08:44 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Lexington
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As long as waxing restores shine and water beading, consider yourself fortunate. Your's looks great!
I'm restoring the gloss to the gelcoat on a 1990 Bayliner boat and while it IS possible to restore even a "basket case" finish, it's one of the most labor intense tasks you'll ever undertake. My always wanting shiny vehicles prompted me to "try" and "buff it out" the previous owner's neglect. Wrestling a rotary polisher when the compound heated up and bonded with the finish is akin to riding a rodeo bull. I ended up wet sanding with 600 through 10,000 grit wet/dry disks, followed by polishing with D/A and rotary polishers and finishing with the best quality PASTE wax I could find. Looks great but so much time! IF I ever finish that &^#$@#$%&%^% project, I'll NEVER do it again!
Just ordered a quality cover for our fifth wheel. Prev owner always kept it under a shelter so it still has has great shine and reflection left.
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10-29-2020, 10:37 PM
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Lost in the Woods
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Ocean County
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Two words that will save you hours of labor and tons of stress, to fix the front cap...
Vinyl Wrap.
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10-30-2020, 06:24 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Somerset
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marko
Jim
Are you headed to Florida this year?
Marko
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I live in Central Florida. I do summers up North in SE Kentucky now. I used to live and work near you though. Lived in Itasca and worked at Midway Airport for 50 years.
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10-30-2020, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member
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Jim
I will be heading down on the 9th. Going to stop in Gillcrest Blue Spring for a night or two.
Marko
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10-30-2020, 12:15 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Somerset
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I am 45 min NW of Orlando in Leesburg which is a few hours south of where you will be. Weather this time of year is wonderful in Florida, have fun.
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10-30-2020, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Athens
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Forget wax. I tried it all. I power sanded mine and here is my rust-oleum $10 industrial paint job. It is not perfect but I am happy. I had brushes and rollers and pan. 2 paint shops wanted $2,000 to paint it. Factory gave me the decals free. My lovely wife help me with decals.
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10-30-2020, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Phoenix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RetiredOne
Two words that will save you hours of labor and tons of stress, to fix the front cap...
Vinyl Wrap.
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I wonder about vinyl wrap in our sun and heat. Decals and for that matter any finish does not do well here. Leave it out for a week and you can see the fade.
We and Australia. The two places with the highest incidents of skin cancer. I have been a victim. That should give you and idea. So would it last?
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10-30-2020, 07:55 PM
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Lost in the Woods
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Ocean County
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CAG
I wonder about vinyl wrap in our sun and heat. Decals and for that matter any finish does not do well here. Leave it out for a week and you can see the fade.
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I wouldn't know about the Phoenix sun. One way to check is to ask local businesses that have had their vans or trucks wrapped with their logos or advertising, to see how they hold up.
My rig was wrapped 1-1/2 years ago. The rear faces South when parked in my driveway, so it's exposed to some hot sun all Summer. I haven't seen any fade, shrinking or peeling yet. The claim is the vinyl is warranted for 5 years.
I would think you could get a front cap wrapped for a few hundred dollars. Plus, since the vinyl is custom printed, you could design any pattern or colors you want. If you notice, the name Jayco doesn't appear anywhere on my rig!!
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