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Old 01-03-2016, 07:12 AM   #31
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The problem with that that is everything is still tied to the Goose neck ball. I understand that the gooseneck is a very stable and theoretically is extremely strong. But I wanted some kind of back up in the event Murphy's law kicks in!! I didn't want to drill more holes in the bed!! Defeats the whole purpose of getting a truck with the hitch built in!! What I did was put some short extensions on the safety chains and ran them back to the tie down hooks in the lower back corners of the truck bed. Granted, it is NOT attached at the frame of the truck which is preferred but it is independent of the gooseneck and fifth wheel frame. If there was sort of catastrophic failure in the gooseneck it would lock the trailer brakes and at least slow any violent action if the hitch disconnected. It's virtually impossible for the connection between the trailer and the hitch to fail unless the aluminum block connector split or you were involved in a major accident. My big concern was the gooseneck ball could have some sort of failure.
Have you towed with the new setup yet?? Any clearance issues? Would love to see some pics of your setup. I want to see how much clearance you have between the cab and the trailer since we both have the same size truck bed and the same trailer?

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I can tell you that without a slider hitch pulling a pinnacle (cap is larger on pinnical than eagle) it will hit at small angles and any dips in the road exasperate the issue. My advise is get slider or 8' bed.... This coming from someone that pulled with short bed and traded for 8'
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One thing I don't understand is why you have safety chains on the Anderson hitch and no other fifth wheel hitch has them.
Is this considered a Goose neck hitch?
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:17 AM   #34
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I can tell you that without a slider hitch pulling a pinnacle (cap is larger on pinnical than eagle) it will hit at small angles and any dips in the road exasperate the issue. My advise is get slider or 8' bed.... This coming from someone that pulled with short bed and traded for 8'
From what I have read on the Andersen hitch it can be setup for a shortbed with an extra 8" of clearance. With my Ford having a 6' 9" bed plus the extra 8" I'm thinking I should be fine. Trading for an 8' bed is out of the question. I'll be driving this truck until the wheels fall off! I like not having payments and low property taxes. Besides she still looks and drives like new! She shines better than most of the new trucks I see on the road.

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Have you towed with the new setup yet?? Any clearance issues? Would love to see some pics of your setup. I want to see how much clearance you have between the cab and the trailer since we both have the same size truck bed and the same trailer?

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I'm on the road now. Left yesterday morning. I have created an issue by going to a 350 over the 250. I will take a couple pics today. I want a couple more days before I give any opinions on the setup. Need to make a change on the height of the ball in the truck. It's riding low enough that sooner or later I'll damage the truck bed sides if I don't. A 350 sets 3 inches higher then a 250. Makes a BIG difference with trying to keep the trailer level.
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I'm on the road now. Left yesterday morning. I have created an issue by going to a 350 over the 250. I will take a couple pics today. I want a couple more days before I give any opinions on the setup. Need to make a change on the height of the ball in the truck. It's riding low enough that sooner or later I'll damage the truck bed sides if I don't. A 350 sets 3 inches higher then a 250. Makes a BIG difference with trying to keep the trailer level.
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you should be good with a 6'9" bed plus the extra 8", my ram had a 6'6" bed and I was using a fixed position hitch with the stock pin box on the camper. I will be the first one to tell you that even my combination was doable, it just required care and being very observant. Now I have an 8' bed and can go way past 90 degrees without concern at any angle.

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From what I have read on the Andersen hitch it can be setup for a shortbed with an extra 8" of clearance. With my Ford having a 6' 9" bed plus the extra 8" I'm thinking I should be fine. Trading for an 8' bed is out of the question. I'll be driving this truck until the wheels fall off! I like not having payments and low property taxes. Besides she still looks and drives like new! She shines better than most of the new trucks I see on the road.

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The problem with that that is everything is still tied to the Goose neck ball. I understand that the gooseneck is a very stable and theoretically is extremely strong. But I wanted some kind of back up in the event Murphy's law kicks in!! I didn't want to drill more holes in the bed!! Defeats the whole purpose of getting a truck with the hitch built in!! What I did was put some short extensions on the safety chains and ran them back to the tie down hooks in the lower back corners of the truck bed. Granted, it is NOT attached at the frame of the truck which is preferred but it is independent of the gooseneck and fifth wheel frame. If there was sort of catastrophic failure in the gooseneck it would lock the trailer brakes and at least slow any violent action if the hitch disconnected. It's virtually impossible for the connection between the trailer and the hitch to fail unless the aluminum block connector split or you were involved in a major accident. My big concern was the gooseneck ball could have some sort of failure.

Rookie question:

It is standard for a gooseneck trailer and bumper pull trailers to use safety chains. Why are safety chains not needed for a standard 5th wheel hitch? Is it impossible for a 5th wheel hitch to fail? Why?

For some reason I thought with the Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel connection, they did not think safety chains are warranted. I've read where folks using this hitch have been stopped on the highway and penalized because of no safety chains. For those using the Andersen, are you also using safety chains?

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Gooseneck trailers are required to have chains I believe as they don't have a wrap around jaw (whereas the fifth wheel hitch does). I believe Anderson takes the stance that they r not a goodeball hitch, but to confirm with your licensing state if u need chains or not? I am going off memory here from rvnet thread on the Anderson.
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Rookie question:

It is standard for a gooseneck trailer and bumper pull trailers to use safety chains. Why are safety chains not needed for a standard 5th wheel hitch? Is it impossible for a 5th wheel hitch to fail? Why?

For some reason I thought with the Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel connection, they did not think safety chains are warranted. I've read where folks using this hitch have been stopped on the highway and penalized because of no safety chains. For those using the Andersen, are you also using safety chains?

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It doesn't matter what Anderson thinks, it matters what the state's law says. If I recall correctly, Michigan's law requires safety chains except with a fifth wheel hitch. If the officer that stops you doesn't think it's a fifth wheel hitch, you'll get a ticket and have to fight it.
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