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Old 04-29-2017, 11:29 AM   #1
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Frameless and non

Hey guys I wanna know the difference between frameless RV windows compared to normal. Which do u prefer and why? Ofcourse frameless must be better as it's a upgrade but just curious why it is? Thanks.
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:32 AM   #2
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They are visually different. I prefer the look of frameless. They install the same way as framed. My 2017 Eagle 293RKDS had frameless standard and we upgraded to frameless dual pane.

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I forgot to add with frameless you can have the windows open in the rain. A lot of your framed windows can't.


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Old 04-29-2017, 11:36 AM   #4
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we have frameless on the new Greyhawk. While I agree it looks cleaner, the windows are casement style and cannot open fully. I miss that.
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We ordered our Eagle HT 27.5rkds with frameless windows. We like the clean look of them and the fact that you don't have to close them when it rains. Yes, they don't open as wide as regular windows, but having them open in the rain offsets that, IMO..
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Old 04-30-2017, 09:17 AM   #6
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I too have the frameless ones, while they look nice and are better on rainy days, you need to be a little careful with them, I've found a couple of them at one time or another, pop out of the opening track mechanism, bit of a pain to reinsert them, also I like to check the rubber seals from the outside when open, they need to be cleaned and slightly lubricated so they don't rip, they are in my opinion pretty thin and cheap.
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Old 04-30-2017, 10:35 AM   #7
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Yes, we have the frame-less windows. They work well enough. As other have stated, they are good in the rain, not so good in the heat (not as good of air flow).
The best windows for RVs and trailers, IMO, are the old louvered windows, that my 1989 Kit trailer had. They can be partly open in moderate rain, and when fully opened the entire window area is letting air circulate.
Just goes to show, in many cases, newer is not always better, just cheaper.
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Yes, we have the frame-less windows. They work well enough. As other have stated, they are good in the rain, not so good in the heat (not as good of air flow).
The best windows for RVs and trailers, IMO, are the old louvered windows, that my 1989 Kit trailer had. They can be partly open in moderate rain, and when fully opened the entire window area is letting air circulate.
Just goes to show, in many cases, newer is not always better, just cheaper.
I hated the old jalousie (louvered) windows with a purple passion! Those misbegotten spawn of Satan always leaked air and, sometimes, even rain and were a royal pain in the...ah...neck to maintain. I still remember the stupid things on the TT my ex and I rebuilt and lived in full time for a few years. We also had them in a mobile home my I ex and I later had. I recently replaced the back door of my current my mobile home that had one of those accursed windows and I am happier than a kitten under a leaky cow to see that abomination gone!

Did I mention I don't like them?
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Old 04-30-2017, 05:28 PM   #9
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I have the framed windows in my 2016 jay flight. The front side of our trailer face east and get loads of direct sun until mid day at my seasonal site. I really wanted good cross ventilation to keep the rig comfortable without running the AC all the time. The frame windows slide open which provides excellent cross ventilation. This is why we went with the framed windows.
If it rains we generally open the roof vents (maxxair covers) and turn on the fans, or just run the AC if it's a muggy rain. I've even cracked opened the windows a bit in an average rain without a problem of water getting in.


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We went with the framed windows, we did not want to lose cross ventilation with the unframed Windows.
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If you have dual pane windows, which I will never be without, and they fog up, they can be repaired. But the company in Hudson, FL that specializes in fogged dual pane window repair charges double per window to repair frameless windows vs frame windows. I'm sure glad I have frame windows.
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I love the look of frameless but that's about it. Our HTT has two big sliding windows and one casement style (emergency exit, not frameless). We do like being able to leave that window open when it raining. We hate it when it's a beautiful breezy day and we can't get the full benefit that the other windows give us. If/when we buy a new unit again and we have a choice between frameless or not, it will not be frameless.
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Ahh thank u all for the responses. So it's either framed windows or dual windows seem to be popular option. I'm looking into RV now and the floor plan I want they don't have any with dual windows besides the one dealer on the western part of Canada. But the interior is meadow. Yuck white lol
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Ahh thank u all for the responses. So it's either framed windows or dual windows seem to be popular option. I'm looking into RV now and the floor plan I want they don't have any with dual windows besides the one dealer on the western part of Canada. But the interior is meadow. Yuck white lol
Not to confuse it any further, but you can have frameless windows without them being dual pane. So in essence and not counting emergency egress windows, there are 3 types: Frameless and dual pane frameless that both open from the bottom and framed that slide open.
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The biggest advantage of the framed windows is the cross ventilation. However, what we have found is that when camping in state parks in the summer, the smoke is so bad you will want the windows closed. We went back to frameless on our latest 5er.
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I guess I don't really understand all the talk about no ventilation with frameless windows. If I open my frameless windows there definitely is air movement in the trailer. If I kick on my Fantastic Vent there can be enough airflow to blow papers off the table on the low setting. I can open all the windows and lose no privacy (tinted) anytime I want to. I can open my windows in a rainstorm and keep bone dry and have nice fresh air moving through TT. They look so much better than the framed windows IMO and are cake to keep spotless clean since there is no frame to deal with. Storing my camper at home in the summer I can leave a window open at front of TT, keep my Fantastic Vent Fan in rear with thermostat set around 85 deg, and know my TT isn't getting 6 million degrees inside rain or shine. Maybe Im just crazy, but I love my frameless windows!
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Do you know if it is safe to drive with windows open with the bottom out frameless type. Safe as in not damaging. I am in a Class C. Dogs need more air on those hot days. Any info would be helpful, Thanks
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I don’t know if it’s safe but I saw a guy in a Class A doing 70 mph down the highway with one of his side frameless windows open. I’d just worry about the wind load on those roller arms.
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Do you know if it is safe to drive with windows open with the bottom out frameless type. Safe as in not damaging. I am in a Class C. Dogs need more air on those hot days. Any info would be helpful, Thanks
Do you mean highway speeds or around town? At highway speeds there could be two problems: The window could flutter and become damaged or if it is the type with a 'push rod' at the bottom to open, the entire rod could be pulled out allowing the window to rotate open too far and become damaged.
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Frame-less windows don't need re-caulking and won't leave streaks down the sides of the RV.
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