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11-24-2022, 07:43 AM
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I am sure it is some liability issue with their insurers that is in all insurance policies. We have seen that here also just in the last few years.
We have a local service station that will do them gladly.
I always have avoided the plug if not patched from inside.
Since I replaced my oe Marathons with G614’s I have not frequented a tire shop!
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11-24-2022, 08:21 AM
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It could be that there is a good chance these tire were run at too low of a pressure when they are brought in with a leak and that can cause hidden damage. Then the tire fails and the plug or patch gets blamed.
Either way, since a lot of these trailer tires are marginal at best, I can see the liability issue with the massive damage a blow out can cause on a RV.
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11-24-2022, 09:45 AM
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I carry air compressor’s for my truck and atv. I figure why not carry a plug kit for those “ oh crap “ situations. I have never had to use them, but it’s kind of nice knowing you have them if you need it. I understand why large companies won’t repair trailer tires, they have to much to lose. It’s cheaper and safer to just say no. Happy Thanksgiving folks!!
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11-24-2022, 02:27 PM
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Goodyear wouldn't patch my Endurance tire. I checked with a couple other reputable tire shops and they all said the same thing. No more patching trailer tires.
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11-24-2022, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TaftCoach
Goodyear wouldn't patch my Endurance tire. I checked with a couple other reputable tire shops and they all said the same thing. No more patching trailer tires.
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I would not feel comfortable plugging a ST tire on my rig.
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11-24-2022, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by norty1
I would not feel comfortable plugging a ST tire on my rig.
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I agree. I'll defer to the experts and their judgement. Tires are cheap.
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11-24-2022, 07:52 PM
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You can go to Harbor Freight and buy a tubeless tire patch kit. I don't know how well it will work on current tires but it worked years ago. Also, there is a patch where you demount the tire and put it over the hole, remount Rd, and balance. Or like we did in the 70's and 80's we put a tube in it.
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11-25-2022, 06:34 AM
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I found this on a motorcycle website If you insist on running a tube in a tubeless tire, the general rule of thumb is to treat the setup as one load rating and one speed rating less than the tubeless tire says it can handle. That's mainly because your tube and tire combination will be creating extra heat,
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11-26-2022, 12:52 PM
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Nope
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Originally Posted by GarlicDude
So buying a tire warranty at Discount/America's Tire is a waste of money?
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Nope. They replace the tire, period.
Pro-rated, but replaced, not repaired.
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11-26-2022, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GarlicDude
I also read the warranty, but warranties can be a bit vague. When I did a search I tried to filter for "Trailer" but saw no mention of trailer.
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As a tire design engineer I know of no reason a tire can not be repaired
IF it meets published industry guidelines for repair for Size, Location, and proximity to another repair.
Possibly the age of the tire but any reputable shop should be able to show you the tire industry chart on acceptable repairs.
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11-26-2022, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomson
You can go to Harbor Freight and buy a tubeless tire patch kit. I don't know how well it will work on current tires but it worked years ago. Also, there is a patch where you demount the tire and put it over the hole, remount Rd, and balance. Or like we did in the 70's and 80's we put a tube in it.
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If the repair Patch + Plug is done correctly I would not run a tube. If you need a tube then I think the repair has not been done properly.
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11-26-2022, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Learjet
It could be that there is a good chance these tire were run at too low of a pressure when they are brought in with a leak and that can cause hidden damage. Then the tire fails and the plug or patch gets blamed.
Either way, since a lot of these trailer tires are marginal at best, I can see the liability issue with the massive damage a blow out can cause on a RV.
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If the tire was "run flat" (after a loss of 20% or more) then the store should be able to point to the damage on the tire as the reason for not doing a repair.
Competent tire tech should be able to point to the specific damage on interior or exterior of the tire.
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11-26-2022, 03:12 PM
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To me, the idea of putting in a plug is what I will use if I need to get somewhere. Spare tire is 1st choice. Today's glues are pretty good. Its a stop gap measure.
BTW, I also built a wood shelf over my wheel well on the side that has wires, water and now my lithium battery. Hopefully, it will help/protect if a tire explodes. I'm not thinking I'll have that problem with top of the line tires on trailer...but just in case!
And to confirm....within the warranty period, Discount will refund or replace.
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11-26-2022, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffur
The reference was to the comment of carrying a plug kit in your car and doing it yourself.
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Exactly. I have a plug patch kit for just this reason. To get us to a safe spot or a store.
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11-26-2022, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffur
Plugs are good for a street tire 32-44 psi but not a 80psi tire. It will just blow it out.
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That is not correct. I have plugged several 80 psi tires with the old fashion plug and they all held. Have had a plug in my eagle tire for 2 years.
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11-26-2022, 07:40 PM
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But what is being stated is that many tire shops will not plug a tire. Is that not their choice for whatever reason?
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11-26-2022, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andycook281
That is not correct. I have plugged several 80 psi tires with the old fashion plug and they all held. Have had a plug in my eagle tire for 2 years.
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I also have plugged Load range E truck tires and the plug held until the tire wore out and was discarded.
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11-26-2022, 08:55 PM
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I cannot even remember the amount of plugs I have put in dual and tri axle boat trailer tires. And let me tell you a 30 ft 10 wide boat on a tri axle backing and turning looks like the tire is about to rip off the rim. Never had a plug fail.
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11-26-2022, 10:01 PM
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I've plugged many truck and trailer tires and they work for me.
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11-27-2022, 09:10 AM
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I had a flat 3 years ago in Florida & had the same issues. The neighbor told me to try Jim’s Tire & Wheel in Dade City. They did an excellent job. Never had a problem with that tire since.
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