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Old 05-19-2019, 12:58 PM   #1
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Gut Check - Pinnacle 36KPTS vs 32RLTS or NP 315RLTS

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New members here - looking for help selecting our first RV for semi Full-time living. We would appreciate other user's observations and recommendations regarding these models. We are still trying to figure out what issues to be concerned about.

I apologize in advance for the long thread with multiple questions. I wasn't sure if separate threads would be better. But at least it's "out there".

Our background: We started long-term volunteering at national wildlife refuges and other places this past year. We recently borrowed a North Point 377RLBH from family for a month of volunteering and thoroughly enjoyed it. We were fine handling this 42-43' rig (for the things we did) and were able to work through freezing weather and a few minor mechanical issues. So now we are hooked.

We are searching for the "perfect" RV and truck that are not "too big" but still livable for 3-6 months at a stretch. We anticipate some dry camping between locations. We were focused on the two smaller models, but she likes the 36KPTS best, However, this comes at a higher price and bigger haul over the other two options.

We hope for some feedback and suggestions from experienced owners of these rigs to help us make the decision.

1. Does the size of the 36KPTS (41') limit access to national parks or other campgrounds as compared to the 36' and 38' options above?

2. What swayed your decision between these models?

3. Does the very long kitchen slide in the 36KPTS cause any additional concerns or handling issues over slides in general?

4. Has Jayco or Lippert modified any of these models for 2020? I read about a few issues, but especially concerned about the cracking problem noted in a recent thread? We are looking forward to time in it this summer, but have the option to wait until this fall to purchase.

5. Any "must-have" options that should be done by the dealer right away for full-time living? I don't want to start off voiding any warranties. We anticipate extra batteries and perhaps a generator to hold the fridge cold while "dry-camping" for multiday trips between locations.

6. Do either of the smaller models allow for smaller tow vehicle than a 1-ton DRW? My math suggest we would carry about 1800-2000 lbs cargo, with on-board generator, plus some fresh water for above dry-camping up to near the GVWR. My math also suggests that most of that weight will be towards the front putting an additional 1000 pounds or more on the king pin over the dry hitch weights (allowing for some added weight of factory options). Any real kingpin load numbers you can share for these RV?

7. Any other issues to consider regarding model selection? "We don't know what we don't know to ask about"!

Sorry again for the long list of questions

Thank you all in advance!!!!

Steve
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Old 05-19-2019, 07:10 PM   #2
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I would go with the pinnacle for the added width, from what Iíve read owners really love it and say it does make a difference especially if your full timing.
I would get the second ac and the generator as you stated, I have four six volt batteries.
If you donít have the tow vehicle yet in late summer gm for sure and I think ford are coming out with a ten speed tranny, gm is also lowering the bed height finally for greater clearance between the rv and bed rails, also gmís 3500 srw diesel will be able to tow 21,500 lbs which is 4K more than their current trucks.
Hope that helps a little.
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Welcome to JOF! Wow you have a list their but I'm sure the members will chime in to help.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:26 PM   #4
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Hi Ringnek and Big1! Thanks for the feedback.

Ringnek: you mention clearance over the truck bed rails. When comparing the RVs Saturday we noted that clearance was higher when walking under the Pinnacle as compared to the NPs. We had also looked at GMC 3500s too. How did you address that issue so they both run level? Anything I need to check before purchasing? Thanks!

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We have a NP 315RLTS and love it but of course the Pinnacles are nicer. If you can afford it I'd definitely go that route. As for a tow vehicle, you're in DRW territory regardless. While we do fine with our F350 SRW diesel, we're technically overweight. So again, if you can afford it, a DRW is the way to go.

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Old 05-20-2019, 10:23 AM   #6
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Thank you Dave!

My estimated loads pointed to DRW for all of the options, but wanted to be sure from others experience.

If you donít mind, can you share some info on your measured weights and how your load is distributed?

Thanks!
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I've attached my weight sheet. Our truck has a 3301 payload and a 11500 GVWR. We're OK on our axle weights (rated st 5990 front and 7230 rear) but over on GVWR. Feel free to do the math.

Not sure what you mean by your distribution question. We only have storage in the front on the 315 and it's fairly full.

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Thank you Dave!

My estimated loads pointed to DRW for all of the options, but wanted to be sure from others experience.

If you donít mind, can you share some info on your measured weights and how your load is distributed?

Thanks!
Definitely a DRW!! Originally bought a RAM 3500 SWR and 5 months later bought a DRW. Didn't particularly care for the "tail wagging the dog"
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I have also been shopping for a Pinnacle and the new 32RLTS as well as the 36KPTS were on our short lists.

For us currently, the 32RLTS was in a slight lead only because it is a bit shorter, but more importantly, based on the published GVW of both, the 32RLTS is within the current towing capacity numbers of my 2018 GMC 3500HD SRW CC Duramax where the 36KPTS is not and would require me currently to go to a dually setup.

But then (as posted above), I read about how the 2020 GM's are due out in a couple months are are expected to have a pretty substantial towing capacity increase over the 2019 models as well as other enhanced towing features they didn't have before which should allow the SRW's to tow even the largest Pinnacle/NP with room to spare. And since we get the GM employee discount, GM's are our obvious first choice.

Then there is the fact that beginning this year, Jayco changed their model year changeovers to later in the year. Even though units coming out now are titled as 2020's, they are basically second half 2019's. If there are any significant changes to the 2020's interiors or options availability, that won't occur yet for a couple months either.

So given all this, and because I am only in the first year of a 3 year lease on my current truck, we have decided to hold off a few more months to see how things shake out with not only the 2020 GM's but with the mid year updates to the Pinnacle lineup as well.
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Old 05-20-2019, 03:12 PM   #10
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Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Dave: those are the kinds of numbers I was calculating which left me nervous. Thank you!

I guess it will be the 36KPTS and a DWR.
Next decision: 2019 or wait for 2020 models
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