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Old 07-31-2015, 08:27 PM   #21
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So far so good on the new welds, after about 1500 miles and 5 days. And over some less than stellar roads. Ogden to Glacier Nat'l Park to Calgary to Banf to Jasper/Hinton. On the way to Dawson Creek and the Alcan and home. No indication of any stress anywhere (and I check every P break and every night).

I checked all the factory paperwork that came with the TH, which was given to me by the previous owner, and I didn't see any mention of NOT using a Goose Neck Adaptor.
Admittedly I haven't check the warranty with a fine tooth comb, since I'm way beyon any warranty period anyway. Still, it seems like that should be a big red flag somewhere?

Anyway, I'm just thankful we caught it right away after the main frame break and the whole kit and kaboodle didn't take a separate exit on the freeway!

I'll confess to this, it scared the pee willies out of me when I saw it, and guaranteed it will be one of the main points of focus on the next rig we get.
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:29 PM   #22
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as a Postscript top my last post - I'm actually glad to hear, and I agree by the way, that it's MOST likely caused by the Goose Neck Adaptor. Much better to know the cause and that's it's been dealt with! Thanks for all the sage advice guys..................
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Glad to hear all is looking good still!!!

And you guys caught the issue when you did.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:35 PM   #24
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The #3 pic looks like a fresh tear but the others look older with some rust in the breaks. Have you hauled some really heavy toys and are you the original owner?
#6 is flat-out a crappy weld. That bottom part wasn't even stuck to the frame on the right.

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I believe you are right that the Break in the frame is fresh, likely happened the day we discovered the problem or shortly before. The rest were older separations of the welds themselves.

I'm the 3rd owner, I know the second owner barely used it and didn't haul any toys.
Don't know about the first owner.

I'm hauling a SxS atv, which is why I think the final break came about.
HOWEVER, I'n not overloaded, and well within the GCVW rating and the Garage rating.
When I bought the TH, it had a goose neck adaptor on it, which I promptly had removed, and I'm towing with a B&W rollover/Companion.

The way the welds were all stressed and separated from the bottom, I wonder if the goose neck adaptor had anything to do with the issue? Or is the design of the front frame members just not adequate?

I'm tempted to have a structural engineer look at it for me when I get home.
Any thoughts?
Dollar to a donut that the GN adapter started all this...

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Glad you caught it when you did. You and that welder look to have done a bang up job on the repair.

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Old 08-02-2015, 10:04 AM   #27
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#6 is flat-out a crappy weld. That bottom part wasn't even stuck to the frame on the right.

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Most of the Lippert welds look like they didn't get nearly enough penetration. I'll bet Lippert uses underqualified welders.
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Most of the Lippert welds look like they didn't get nearly enough penetration. I'll bet Lippert uses underqualified welders.
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Agreed on all your comments re the crappy welds.
The welder that helped me said he could not understand why none of the bottoms of any of the sections were welded at all.

A couple of the RV Repair guys I initially talked to - that couldn't help me - said that part of the problem was they didn't have "certified" welders for that kind of repair.

After I tore into it and we saw the condition of the original factory welds I thought to myself " Self....why in the @#$! would I be concerned if the welder doing the repair was certified or not? If the welder that did the original work was certified, I'd prefer NOT to have a certified welder!"
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And now for the continuing saga .......pulled into Dawson Creek yesterday evening. As were lining up for the pull through space I heard a "thump". Wife though it was a nearby RV'er slamming a door. But then I thought, Hmmm... the RV feels a little mushy, but the ground I was going over WAS a little soft on the drivers side. That must have been it.

Checking air pressure in the tires before departing this morning, it looked a like the rear tire driver side was sitting a little lower in relation to the fender skirt than the rest of the tires. Crawled under and sure enough, bust shackle on that side on rear axle!

It's a Sunday, nothing's open, and oh yeah, ANOTHER Canadian National Holiday tomorrow!

Looks relatively easy to repair, and we're not on a schedule really, so we'll just hang out and explore a bit.

Any opinions on whether the broken shackle is a result of the previous pin box/frame weld issue? or just result of wear and tear and time and bad roads?
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