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Old 11-24-2017, 03:34 PM   #1
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Help with MorRyde shackle kit

I have a problem getting the new wet bolt installed. There is enough load in the spring that the bolt won't go through the hole on other side. The threads go through the hole on the other side (off center), but not the "shoulder" of the bolt. Any thoughts about how to get the bolt centered?

I have been fighting this for several hours...
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You are using jack stands, right, to insure staying un-smashed?

Use a jack to raise or lower the suspension a bit to get the hole lined up.
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Both shackles went smoothly, but the end mount is then under tension. Maybe I have to take the shackle back off to relieve the pressure. Did anyone else install the shackle end first?

[edit] I don't think it helped that I moved the suspension to the lower hole. I think that might have altered the geometry.
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I had a bit of difficulty getting a couple of the bolts through as well. I used a pry-bar to position the spring ends and get the bolts in place. I also had help from my neighbor, the extra pair of hands was a plus.
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I did it both ways. Kept springs in the original upper holes. Can't really say one way was better than the other. I worked on one axle at a time. Always had one axle with tires on the ground. Used jack stands under the frame for safety. Used 3 Unijacks and a floor jack to support and adjust various points as needed on the axle as needed to line things up. It was sometimes difficult to know if the bolt was aligned with the hole before sending it home. Be safe and be patient.
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To be clear (too many folks telling me to "be safe"), I have 2 jack stands on the frame, one in front of the wheels and one behind the wheels.

Using a bottle jack and a floor jack to move things around, both tires removed on the same side.
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Both shackles went smoothly, but the end mount is then under tension. Maybe I have to take the shackle back off to relieve the pressure. Did anyone else install the shackle end first?

[edit] I don't think it helped that I moved the suspension to the lower hole. I think that might have altered the geometry.
I don't think which end you install first is the issue. Moving the suspension to the lower hole has the effect of raising the trailer (which was probably your intention); now the trailer as it sits on the jack stands is to low to connect to the suspension. I think raising the frame is the answer.
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Put a bolt temporarily in the top hole. Then use a pry bar to pry the bottom bolt into position.
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Put a bolt temporarily in the top hole. Then use a pry bar to pry the bottom bolt into position.
^^^ That is a great idea.
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To be clear (too many folks telling me to "be safe"), I have 2 jack stands on the frame, one in front of the wheels and one behind the wheels.

Using a bottle jack and a floor jack to move things around, both tires removed on the same side.
I have read of many people who were working under a car on a bumper jack and were crushed when it fell.

I think they just want you safe! 19 years ago, I was under my TOAD, working on a drive shaft disconnect in my garage, I had the truck backed up on ramps. When I disconnected the drive shaft the truck moved forward just enough to roll down the ramps. I was under it as it rolled over me, clipping my body enough to crack a few ribs and rupture my spleen.

4 surgeries later and feeling lucky and blessed to be alive, I often reflect on why I forgot to put chocks under the front wheels.

When I did the wet bolt kit on my last trailer, I had 2 jack stands, concrete blocks, my truck hitched to the fifth wheel and 3 bottle jacks to lift the axles. I hope I learned my lesson!
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Put a bolt temporarily in the top hole. Then use a pry bar to pry the bottom bolt into position.
Or put the nut on and tap it with a hammer or use a "c" clamp to pull it forward.
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^^^ That is a great idea.
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I will try this first thing in the AM
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By trying to drop to the lower mount point and working on one side at a time you’re putting twist pressure on the system. Work on one axle at a time instead and everything will line up a whole lot better.


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When I did mine I let the shackles on the equalizer flip backwards. I had all four wheels off and also used a ratchet strap to align the axle. I found that the outer shackle/frame bolt was harder to get in as I was hammering them in and there was too much bounce. I got them in far enough to get a nut on and then pull the splined head in. I took the nut off a couple of times to make sure the bolt shank was coming thru the hole on the nut side.

Would be a lot easier if everything was properly aligned under the trailer but the person that welded mine in place was impaired that day I think. I found that the u-shape bracket that holds the top of the equalizer was ~1/4" wider opening than required so the bolt forces it together when tightened.

For peace of mind it's best to never look under the trailer at how they are built
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GOT IT!

I split the problem into two parts. I had to move the bolt down-and-back.

I cut a double-taper wedge (to put pressure on the inboard side of the spring) and drove it in between the old bolt and the spring end.

Then I used a C-clamp to pull the spring back towards the shackle end.

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