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Old 11-29-2015, 06:05 PM   #1
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Quick question, We recently camped at a site that was not level,it had a decline of about nine inches from one side compared to the other side, question is the decline had my passenger side tires totally off the ground is this okay? Should I put pads or something under the tires for support?
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:21 PM   #2
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Personally, I would not had put my trailer on any pad that is uneven more than 3 inches. I would requested a different spot that was a bit more leveled. It's dangerous IMHO to have wheels off the ground, period. If you have the auto leveling jacks, they are for leveling only and should not be used as trailer jacks. But, I could be wrong and others might have different thoughts. I'm always try to be more cautious.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:28 PM   #3
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personally, i would not had put my trailer on any pad that is uneven more than 3 inches. I would requested a different spot that was a bit more leveled. It's dangerous imho to have wheels off the ground, period. If you have the auto leveling jacks, they are for leveling only and should not be used as trailer jacks. But, i could be wrong and others might have different thoughts. I'm always try to be more cautious.
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Old 11-29-2015, 08:27 PM   #4
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Was every inch of that site uneven or just where you decided you park? I'm just asking because I've had the perfect place to park but it was uneven but the site had other places to position my camper that were even but my door might not have been in the ideal location.

I agree with the 2 posts above. I would never do that. Ever.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:47 AM   #5
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Guys, it is my understanding that the six point leveling system is designed to do exactly what the OP experienced. And, it does it without any undue stress to the frame. That is, if the leveling system was properly calibrated prior to this experience.

If you are ever using the leveling system and the site has some uneveness, you may hear 2 or more jack motors running at the same time.

Our prior SOB had the hydraulic system on it. It would lift both tires on occasion on one side off the ground if it had to in order to get the unit level from one side to the other.

At our seasonal site that we lease, when I set up and level, due to the slope at rear off door side, I will hear both jack motors at the axles run at the same time. That is because they are lifting that side and rear corner to level the unit. The tires do not come completely off but, they are barely touching the planks they are on.
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I hope it wasn't the entry side that needed to be lifted that much; it'd make that first step "UP" lead to "down on the ground".

I wouldn't consider that park pad acceptable - if no other reasonable level ones (plus/minus 3") were available I'd get a refund and go elsewhere.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:31 AM   #7
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Not sure what unit the OP has. If it is a MH with auto-leveling, there should not be a problem with the tires being off the ground. But if it is a travel trailer, the stabilizer jacks are not to be used as leveling jacks. They are not designed to take that kind of weight for prolonged periods - especially with people moving around inside.

I carry 1X6 and 2X6 boards to place under the low side tires, then run the stabilizers down. That said, nine inches is unacceptable. I would ask for a different site - no matter what unit I had.
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Guys, it is my understanding that the six point leveling system is designed to do exactly what the OP experienced. And, it does it without any undue stress to the frame. That is, if the leveling system was properly calibrated prior to this experience.

If you are ever using the leveling system and the site has some uneveness, you may hear 2 or more jack motors running at the same time.

Our prior SOB had the hydraulic system on it. It would lift both tires on occasion on one side off the ground if it had to in order to get the unit level from one side to the other.

At our seasonal site that we lease, when I set up and level, due to the slope at rear off door side, I will hear both jack motors at the axles run at the same time. That is because they are lifting that side and rear corner to level the unit. The tires do not come completely off but, they are barely touching the planks they are on.
I don't understand, if only the 2 axel jacks run together on the same side to level side to side, how isn't the frame twisting?
Wouldn't all 3 need to lift at the same time?
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:39 AM   #9
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I have the Ground Control 3.0 system (electric).... It gets the trailer leveled with the four corner jacks first, then the center jacks are lowered last to stabilize... my routine is to level side-to-side with curved ramps under the low side tires before unhooking (have a large bubble level mounted on the pin box)... un-hook and manually rough level front to rear using front jacks... put pads under center and rear jacks to minimize stroke and let the auto level do it's thing... If I don't get trailer fairly level at first, the auto system will sometimes fail.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:21 AM   #10
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klassic,

Yes. All 3 motors on one side will run to extend the jacks to lift the side to match the other side.

Again, it is my understanding that as long as the unit has been manually leveled and the system calibrated to "teach" the "electronic bubble" what orientation the unit is in, the jacks will seek to orientate the unit. That is why a 2 or, 3 foot carpenters level comes in handy when it needs to be checked and calibrated.

I am more familiar with Lippert's 6 point hydraulic system. I am in the process of checking with some of my old "coherts" at Lippert to take me to school on these electric Ground Control systems. If I am wrong in my understanding how this is to operate, I will eat crow!!
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