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Old 05-10-2016, 08:16 AM   #11
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I'm pretty sure I have the 15 inch wheels. I would probably let it ride high and wear these tires out before replacing just to get another inch. That is a good idea though.

Do any of you guys have your pin box adjusted all the way up? If so, are you able to clear the fiberglass on the nose?

For the record, from the ground to the top of my open tail gate is 36 inches, the same as a 2016 F150 4x4
This is from another post that I did a while ago when I picked up my camper

"I took some measurements of my TV and FW both sitting on level ground. I opened my tailgate and from the ground to the top of the tailgate is 36 inches, my hitch from the bed to the top of the hitch is 16 inches. So all together my hitch plate is 52 inches off the ground. the bed rails are at 57 inches off the ground. Next I went to the FW and measured from the ground to the kingpin and it is at about 49 inches which is good because when I hook up the truck squats about 2 inches or so. This makes the whole set up level enough for me not to worry about it."
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:18 AM   #12
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I just found this forum and didn't know it existed. Awesome! Maybe you guys can help.
I have a 2006 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4x4 pulling the FW in the title. I am using an Andersen Ultimate hitch. My problem is that the FW is towing about 5 inches nose high. I have 8.5 inches of bed clearance to the FW and the pin box is adjusted all the way up. There is one hole left, but the pin box hits the fiberglass before I can reach the highest hole. I really don't want to raise the FW because of the outside kitchen. What set up are y'all using? Are these FW's really low or am I doing something wrong?
I am having this exact same issue since my 29.5 BHDS since i upgraded my TV to a 2016 F250 = Nose high about 5 inches and the back trailer axle looks more stressed than the front axle.

Only difference from you (other than the truck Ford vs GM) is my hitch is a Model #2700 15K Pullrite Slider Hitch which seems to sit pretty high in my truck bed.

Other than trying to find another hitch that sits lower in my truck bed i think my only other option is to raise the sub-frame BUT wouldn't this totally raise the overall trailer height and will I will need new stairs with an extra step to get into the trailer?

I also thought of cutting into the fibreglass of trailer to raise the pinbox and like you, am not a fan!

I have my first trip of the season planned for May 20-22. I think i might just give it a whirl with the nose high and see how it works it and go from there.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:46 AM   #13
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My tailgate is 36 in, my bed rails are 55 in from ground up. From the bed to top of my hitch ball is 16 in and from the ground up to the inside of the coupler that goes onto the ball is at 46in. 47 inches to the underside of the plate on the kingpin.

Is your kingpin adjusted all the way up on the very top holes? Your bigger tires help you out a good bit also.

GiddiYup,

Boy it does sound like we are in the same boat. I don't want to raise the trailer because of the outside kitchen and the step. I have towed my FW on several 30 mi trips here locally and it seemed to tow fine. I'm just not excited about towing in the FL heat with the rear axles so loaded.
You can adjust the leaf springs down one hole and it will raise the whole trailer about 2 inches. I think I will have to do this no matter what my hitch situation turns out to be.

Andersen just called me back and they said they can adjust the Andersen 3221 (which is for a flat bed goose) to fit my truck. This hitch is 4 inches lower at the lowest adjustment. The kicker is I paid the dealer $550 for my current Andersen and the Rep quoted me a total of right at $1,000 for this other hitch. I'm running out money pretty quick on this project.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:05 AM   #14
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Just a side comment - I'm not at all sure what truck Jayco designs the HT line for! When I got mine a couple of years ago, it also sat high with my F-150. Had to pay $800 extra for what the dealer called a "lift kit". The head mechanic said that all HT's used on Fords needed them. Of course, this was not disclosed in the sales process.......
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #15
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So it seems the problem lies more with the Jayco design rather than the hitch and kingpin selection. This is my first FW and is all new to me. I'm learning as I go.

So I either need a 10 in hitch from the bed to top of hitch or a truck with a truck that comes off the lot with 30 inches from open tailgate to the ground. I sure wish Jayco would comment on this. I absolutely love this FW except for this one issue.
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:23 AM   #16
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My 27.5bhs was 6+ inches nose high with my stock 2010 Ram 2500 which has a bed height that is very close to current half tons, so as pointed out it's NOT just a 2500 issue.

I ended up putting a net 5" subframe under mine and put on 16" wheels and am very satisfied with that setup. I don't have an outdoor kitchen, however it didn't mess up the step imho. The bottom step stock was very low (within a few inches of the ground). A couple times on off camber sites I had to shovel underneath the step. With the subframe the distance is similar to the distance between the other steps.

Here's a link that shows what I ended up doing.

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f6...t-18663-2.html
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:36 AM   #17
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Andersen just called me back and they said they can adjust the Andersen 3221 (which is for a flat bed goose) to fit my truck. This hitch is 4 inches lower at the lowest adjustment. The kicker is I paid the dealer $550 for my current Andersen and the Rep quoted me a total of right at $1,000 for this other hitch. I'm running out money pretty quick on this project.
If you lower you hitch 4", isn't that going to cause an issue with your bedrail clearance then? I have the standard kingpin, I raised it up 1 hole from the factory setting. I have the Andersen Ultimate II hitch, set on the lower setting. I have the FW rear suspension on the top holes. I think I'm sitting just under 3" nose-high and I'm ok with this. I'll have to double-check next time I'm hooked-up, but I think I have just barely under 6" clearance at the top of my rear tailgate, which is the highest point. I think I have closer to 7" on the side bedrails. I also ordered my FW with the 16" wheel upgrade package.
I think I'm going to install the Correct Track setup, which will gain me another 2" in height then I'll be all set.

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Old 05-10-2016, 11:39 AM   #18
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That's a good idea, but I'm thinking I/we shouldn't have to do that to get our campers towing level.

The hitch they are offering to make me is 4 inches shorter overall, but the middle setting is at 14 inches. This would be 2 inches lower than my current Anderson will go and lower the nose 2 inches. This would leave me with 6.5 inches between the bed rails and the nose of the FW.
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Mine was nose high and I have the Resse Evo pin box and a Reese plate in the truck. I measure from the bottom of the fiberglass under the nose to the highest point on my truck, which it at the tailgate. There I have about 5 in of clearance between the top and the underneath. At that point I am about as level as I can get. I like about 5 in of clearance and then just let it ride as is, which comes out just about level.

Later I plan on putting on the 16" wheels to get better tires and I will see how that impacts...
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:35 PM   #20
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Mine was nose high and I have the Resse Evo pin box and a Reese plate in the truck. I measure from the bottom of the fiberglass under the nose to the highest point on my truck, which it at the tailgate. There I have about 5 in of clearance between the top and the underneath. At that point I am about as level as I can get. I like about 5 in of clearance and then just let it ride as is, which comes out just about level.

Later I plan on putting on the 16" wheels to get better tires and I will see how that impacts...


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