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Old 03-05-2016, 08:25 AM   #11
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.... I'm surprised there are not companies out there providing this as a service. Buy the trailer, take it to them immediately, they go through every inch and correct all these things and in the end you have something truly ready for the long haul. I doubt this is a Jayco thing so whomever offered the service would have plenty of market opportunity.
90% of the people that buy these wouldn't care about that. They want cheap (which is why they are slapped together like they are) and don't care until they buy a lemon and then come to the forms to complain about getting a lemon.
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Old 03-05-2016, 10:55 AM   #12
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90% of the people that buy these wouldn't care about that. They want cheap (which is why they are slapped together like they are) and don't care until they buy a lemon and then come to the forms to complain about getting a lemon.
That's one way to see it. I would disagree. I doubt anyone knowingly buys something broken or that will quickly break or is dangerous. Unless you're in the 1,2 pct you simply want to buy the best you can for as little as you can. That's what we did and why I am perfectly happy with what I bought even though I will be doing modifications after the sale.
I bought the trailer because I can see they used good components, it was designed in a way I like very much, has good specs and that I could take care of the rest.
I've done that with computers, cars, boats, from the factory it's never just how I want it.
I thought about my posts last night and meant to say this before or make it more clear. I am really extremely pleased with what I bought and the price I paid. None of this is detracting from that.
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Old 03-05-2016, 11:33 AM   #13
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Sacramento RV, but you must insist on Devon (for us)

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We're in Reno, originally from Northern, CA. Curious as to where you purchased from?
Sacramento RV. I google searched the area within a few hundred miles and no one else had the exact model we wanted. It then came down to were they going to meet our price and they were very willing to negotiate. My tactic is to be respectful and polite but more important do your research and work with realistic numbers. We like to work on out the door. We will pay you this much sign and leave. Put it on the dealer to figure out the math to make that happen. They did and have no regrets.

It is my experience though you must control this whole process. Best I can tell their perfect sale is you pay, hookup and go immediately. You buy it in as is condition as it sits there. Anything to be done they want to handle as a warranty after the sale. I don't blame them this means they get paid for the sale and any work after.

My end I want to pay after I've used it a while to verify in real world conditions everything works as advertised.

The actual events are somewhere in the middle and I know the only leverage I have is the money and the contract. I never will sign or pay until I am at that moment ready to hook up and go. Then I have myself to blame if I didn't do enough inspection before that time. You have to be firm, we were, it did not seem to bother them at all which I will give them credit for. Just be respectful and see their side and speak in terms that's not confrontational so they know you're just doing what you need to do to be happy.

Honestly my wife and I walked a lot of RV dealerships between here and San Diego over the years. RV Sacramento is quirky but they appear to be solvent and they want to make the sale. They move product and the people involved with the business success act accordingly.

The actual sale went so perfectly for us because, and I really can't stress this enough, of a single salesman there "Devon". When we were quickly passed off to him by the orig. salesperson he stepped up to the plate and was exactly who we needed to work with. Patient beyond belief with our wandering the entire lot with him in tow. That is how you earn business. You put in the time knowing it may not pay off. Devon is young so when the others radar or whatever instinct told them we were probably not going to buy they disappeared. That's just our style. You're never going to get the best price if you let on it's the perfect one and you have to have it right away unless you're buying something from your parents. Which, honestly, Devon was like family quickly. Just quiet, polite, knew everything about them or got the answer right then. He was good around the kids and just put us at ease. Zero pressure.

If you go to Sacramento RV insist on Devon, I'd even wait and come back to work with just Devon. I'm sorry but to me that's the only way to force the dealership to see the value of guys like Devon is to show they will lose your sale if they don't hire a whole bunch more Devon's when things get busy or put him in charge of everyone else.

PS: Soon after picking up the trailer I started getting calls from resorts about my "Free night's stay" ... no obligation .. essentially my phone number was obviously sold off which really bugs me to no end. If you buy there insist that doesn't happen unless you want calls at 8-9pm and randomly through the day about your good fortune to win no obligation stays here and there. Which for me I'd rather contact them on my own.
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Sacramento RV. I google searched the area within a few hundred miles and no one else had the exact model we wanted. It then came down to were they going to meet our price and they were very willing to negotiate. My tactic is to be respectful and polite but more important do your research and work with realistic numbers. We like to work on out the door. We will pay you this much sign and leave. Put it on the dealer to figure out the math to make that happen. They did and have no regrets.

It is my experience though you must control this whole process. Best I can tell their perfect sale is you pay, hookup and go immediately. You buy it in as is condition as it sits there. Anything to be done they want to handle as a warranty after the sale. I don't blame them this means they get paid for the sale and any work after.

My end I want to pay after I've used it a while to verify in real world conditions everything works as advertised.

The actual events are somewhere in the middle and I know the only leverage I have is the money and the contract. I never will sign or pay until I am at that moment ready to hook up and go. Then I have myself to blame if I didn't do enough inspection before that time. You have to be firm, we were, it did not seem to bother them at all which I will give them credit for. Just be respectful and see their side and speak in terms that's not confrontational so they know you're just doing what you need to do to be happy.

Honestly my wife and I walked a lot of RV dealerships between here and San Diego over the years. RV Sacramento is quirky but they appear to be solvent and they want to make the sale. They move product and the people involved with the business success act accordingly.

The actual sale went so perfectly for us because, and I really can't stress this enough, of a single salesman there "Devon". When we were quickly passed off to him by the orig. salesperson he stepped up to the plate and was exactly who we needed to work with. Patient beyond belief with our wandering the entire lot with him in tow. That is how you earn business. You put in the time knowing it may not pay off. Devon is young so when the others radar or whatever instinct told them we were probably not going to buy they disappeared. That's just our style. You're never going to get the best price if you let on it's the perfect one and you have to have it right away unless you're buying something from your parents. Which, honestly, Devon was like family quickly. Just quiet, polite, knew everything about them or got the answer right then. He was good around the kids and just put us at ease. Zero pressure.

If you go to Sacramento RV insist on Devon, I'd even wait and come back to work with just Devon. I'm sorry but to me that's the only way to force the dealership to see the value of guys like Devon is to show they will lose your sale if they don't hire a whole bunch more Devon's when things get busy or put him in charge of everyone else.

PS: Soon after picking up the trailer I started getting calls from resorts about my "Free night's stay" ... no obligation .. essentially my phone number was obviously sold off which really bugs me to no end. If you buy there insist that doesn't happen unless you want calls at 8-9pm and randomly through the day about your good fortune to win no obligation stays here and there. Which for me I'd rather contact them on my own.
We actually started the sales process there, after deciding to order what we wanted, even spoke to Devon and Keith. Both of them were great and very friendly. When we got to Reggie, things went bad. But in the end it all worked out, ended up ordering from Richardson's in Riverside hoping to take delivery around the end of April. Since you will have already owned this model for a while i'm guessing you'll know it inside and out by the time our's comes in..... I hope you dont mind a couple PM's here and there to maybe answer some questions!! lol
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@mtedelen: I bet Reggie is the guy we avoided after hearing a few of his comments while standing around looking bored. Keith was good indeed. Really looking back really just that one bad apple there.
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