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11-15-2015, 02:16 PM
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I have a 2015 Eagle 31.5 FBHS and thinking about going from my 150 ecoboost to a F250. Can I keep the same hitch and just swap it over? Also will I be satisfied with a gas burner F250. It's gonna be a daily driver.
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11-15-2015, 02:38 PM
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You don't say what you have for a hitch but you may need different rails. Take a look at your hitches web site. You should be able to determine what you may need that is different. As far as being satisfied with a F250 gaser, only you can answer that question. As far as will a new F250 pull your 5er, that shouldn't be an issue on the flat country side. I upgraded from a 04 Silverado 2500HD gaser to a 2015 Silverado 2500HD Duramax. You wouldn't believe the difference. I'll never have a gaser again. Just my 2 cents.
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11-15-2015, 02:42 PM
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Ugh......on the f250 with the gas engine. My father in law had one and it felt like it was a 4cyl. Plus it just drank fuel. Shame to as it was a beautiful truck.
Diesel is the way to go if you can afford the initial cost. You will get it all back in fuel savings and resale. Plus it will just flat out tow easier.
Hitch should should be no issue to move. Only thing would be if the new truck came with the factory 5th wheel hitch prep.
I have 2500 GMC I use as a daily driver. Overall fuel and maintenance cost is lower than my Nissan Titan was. I have 56,000 miles on it in 2 yrs.
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11-15-2015, 02:49 PM
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A gasser will pull it, but a diesel will spoil you, but at a price. I think a lot of people are too impatient to deal with downshift and slower speeds that gas engines need on a grade. I'm sure if the manufacturer rates it for the load It can do it.
My 6.0 ford pulled good, my new 6.7 pulls amazingly. Still can't figure out why a pickup needs that much power, but I'll take it!
Just remember that everything diesel is more expensive.DIY oil changes are nearly $100, fuel filters, DEF, etc...
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11-15-2015, 02:52 PM
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I only pull it 5 times a year and its mostly flat ground. I just wonder if it will feel a lot more stable than my 150. My ecoboost will drag it any where.
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11-15-2015, 03:00 PM
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I'd keep the ecoboost over a 250 gas truck.
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11-15-2015, 04:28 PM
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We love our Ram 2500 Diesel! She can pull 10,000lbs up a hill without having to go above 2,300 RPMs! And, we're getting on an average of about 14 mpg! We will never go back to gas engine to tow anything.
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11-15-2015, 06:21 PM
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I can't answer if your hitch will directly transfer, but the 6.2L gas will get the job done; the F250 will be more capable than the F150.
I fought going diesel for a long time, but eventually tired of the gas engines using high RPMs to get the job done. I finally concluded that "it's only money" and bit the bullet.
YMMV.
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11-15-2015, 07:11 PM
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I will be the only one on here to say that your 150 is a better truck than the 250. I had an 02 F350 7.3 before my current Ecoboost and can say with complete honesty that the Eco does a better job towing than the F350 did. The main thing is the boxed frame on the F150 is much, much stiffer than the current SD frame which results in more precise steering and handing. My F350 and every other one I have been in had terrible frame flex, steering wander and bed hop. Ford has finally recognized that and went to a fully boxed frame on the SD for 2017.
Now if you were thinking about getting a Ram 2500 Cummins I would say by all means do so.
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11-15-2015, 07:30 PM
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My current 5th wheel weighs 9200lbs. I just didn't want to pay the extra money for a diesel that will only really be used 5-6 times a year. I have to buy a new truck for income tax reasons. I wonder if I should get another 150.
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11-15-2015, 08:01 PM
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ID get a new f150 before any 3/4 ton gas truck. If you like a Dodge, you can get a diesel 2500 pretty well equipped for the same money as a loaded f150.
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11-16-2015, 05:48 AM
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Having had both gassers and now a Diesel - the choice, for a DD, for towing on weekends, and general use is Diesel.
I didn't like the way Ram and Ford HD trucks rode and drove (solid front axle shows ugly for daily driver duty) - When I drove the Chevy/GMC HD, it was an eye opener. The IFS and suspension tuning was far and above better than the other 2 manufactures offerings.
I love my Sierra 3500HD for daily, and towing, it's smooth, comfortable, and I average 20.6MPG unloaded (mixxed) - Loaded to bear with our 38FLSA packed for a week of camping it gets 14.5MPG across Colorado/Wyoming - in the Plains of Kansas it got 16.4. this is with a total GVW of 24,670.
IMO - if your going to tow it, do it with a diesel.
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11-16-2015, 06:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KC_GMC
Having had both gassers and now a Diesel - the choice, for a DD, for towing on weekends, and general use is Diesel.
I didn't like the way Ram and Ford HD trucks rode and drove (solid front axle shows ugly for daily driver duty) - When I drove the Chevy/GMC HD, it was an eye opener. The IFS and suspension tuning was far and above better than the other 2 manufactures offerings.
I love my Sierra 3500HD for daily, and towing, holy ****! - it's smooth, comfortable, and I average 20.6MPG unloaded (mixxed) - Loaded to bear with our 38FLSA packed for a week of camping it gets 14.5MPG across Colorado/Wyoming - in the Plains of Kansas it got 16.4. this is with a total GVW of 24,670.
IMO - if your going to tow it, do it with a diesel.
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I totally agree. I have a 2004 sierra duramax 2500hd. Just wondering what a new one goes for loaded. I paid $35,000 in '03 and have heard they are twice that now. (sorry for the highjack)
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11-16-2015, 07:05 AM
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Go with a Duramax. I've had both, would not go back to gas for towing. Duramax also run so much quieter than a Dodge & Ford diesel, you don't disturb the entire campground when you drive through!!!
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11-16-2015, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Shorty Cox
Go with a Duramax. I've had both, would not go back to gas for towing. Duramax also run so much quieter than a Dodge & Ford diesel, you don't disturb the entire campground when you drive through!!!
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Oh come on, my Ram is not That loud. Like others have said, going from a Gasser to a Diesel myself, I would Not go back. I too use my TV as a Daily Driver. Even owning a Longbed, I Love my Truck. OK, so I do have to park out back of most lots, because most spots I can't use, without 'looking' like I wanted to take-up two spots. And we know how some of the 'Tree-Huggers' can be when they think you did this on purpose. So just to be safe, I just park a little farther away now. No big deal and I still wouldn't go back to my 1500 Gasser.
Dave...
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11-16-2015, 07:31 AM
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My trailer weighs in at about 8200 lbs. loaded. Plus what we have in the truck (ourselves, dog, gear, etc.) and my F250 yanks it without a problem. I wouldn't dream of hitching a F150 up to it. I'm sure it would pull it but the 3/4 ton 6.2L does it better. And yes, I've tried both. Just some friendly advice.
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11-16-2015, 08:36 AM
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The diesel will pull all day and save you fuel. But it will take a L-O-N-G time to pay for itself. My Chevy 6.0L gasser gets about 8.5 mpg pulling my trailer. (That's $23.50 every 100 miles, at $2.00/gallon.) The diesel version of my truck gets about 13 mpg pulling that same load. (That's $19.75 every 100 miles, at $2.60/gallon.) So it would save me $3.75 every 100 miles (not counting DEF and the extra maintenance costs - two batteries, more expensive oil changes, etc)
In just fuel costs alone, it would take over 213,000 miles to break even. (The diesel option in the Chevy adds about $8000 to the sticker price.)
But if you can find a newer used truck with the diesel, with low miles, that would be a different story. And if it were me (which it may be, soon - been contemplating), I'd go with the F-350. A lot more cargo capacity for not much more money.
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11-16-2015, 08:41 AM
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I went from a Ram 2500 crew cab 4x4 with a 5.7 hemi gas back to a 3500 crew cab 4x4 diesel.
Around town driver and im getting,
Gas = 9mpg
Diesel = 17mpg
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11-16-2015, 08:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanky1
I went from a Ram 2500 crew cab 4x4 with a 5.7 hemi gas back to a 3500 crew cab 4x4 diesel.
Around town driver and im getting,
Gas = 9mpg
Diesel = 17mpg
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My Chevy 2007 6.0L gasser gets about 12.5 around town - 14 mpg on the highway (8.5 towing my 8500# trailer). The diesel version is advertised as 14 around town and 17 mpg on the highway (13 towing my trailer). It varies by make - and also the terrain where you travel. Highway mileage in the mountains will be very different than in Illinois. And city mileage in Chicago will be different than city in Boise.
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11-16-2015, 08:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoutr2
The diesel will pull all day and save you fuel. But it will take a L-O-N-G time to pay for itself. My Chevy 6.0L gasser gets about 8.5 mpg pulling my trailer. (That's $23.50 every 100 miles, at $2.00/gallon.) The diesel version of my truck gets about 13 mpg pulling that same load. (That's $19.75 every 100 miles, at $2.60/gallon.) So it would save me $3.75 every 100 miles (not counting DEF and the extra maintenance costs - two batteries, more expensive oil changes, etc)
In just fuel costs alone, it would take over 213,000 miles to break even. (The diesel option in the Chevy adds about $8000 to the sticker price.)
But if you can find a newer used truck with the diesel, with low miles, that would be a different story. And if it were me (which it may be, soon - been contemplating), I'd go with the F-350. A lot more cargo capacity for not much more money.
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Why does Everyone say / think Oil Changes cost more? I do my own, and with the 2500, its Very Easy to do. I just put 3 Gallons of T6 Oil in, @ $20.95 per-gallon (Wal-Mart) and Cummins Filter @ $19.95. So for a Whopping $82.80 I put 12 Quarts of Synthetic Oil & Filter in. I'll repeat this now every 7000 miles.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanky1
I went from a Ram 2500 crew cab 4x4 with a 5.7 hemi gas back to a 3500 crew cab 4x4 diesel.
Around town driver and im getting,
Gas = 9mpg
Diesel = 17mpg
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My 1500 Gasser got 15.4mpg City
My Diesel gets 18.5 City
I've gotten 22.3 doing 80 on the Highway in my Diesel!
Dave...
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