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10-07-2018, 07:41 PM
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Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
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Right, Kool & The Gang. After you bleed the brakes, you’re gonna be surprised to see now just how much you’ll be turning the gain down.
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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10-07-2018, 07:52 PM
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#62
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North Point 377 RLBH disc brake conversion
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Originally Posted by Cannon
Dskyward, is there a big difference between your disk and the factory brakes.
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My factory brakes never worked to begin with, so I wouldn’t know. They weren’t set right at all from the factory. A new Jayco Eagle parked next to me at the dealer here in IN also had the same trouble he couldn’t get his brakes to engage either.
So with that, when we got the disc brakes installed inside seven days you better believe it it was a huge difference!
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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10-07-2018, 08:01 PM
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I don’t really care what the gain is set to as long as the brakes actually stop [emoji3]
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-07-2018, 08:05 PM
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Tom, did you have to get the Ford adapter module?
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2016 North Point 341RLTS
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10-07-2018, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klassic
Tom, did you have to get the Ford adapter module?
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No, I believe it’s required for trucks before 2012(?)
Mine didn’t need it.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-08-2018, 06:38 AM
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If we end up staying with the fiver and not switching to a DP MH I'd like to do the Moryde independent suspension and disc brakes. A bunch of money to dump into a trailer though.
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10-10-2018, 02:44 PM
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Location: Aloha
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Hi, how much was the kit to have disc brakers for your northpoint. Have you pulled your RV and how does the disc brakes work compared to the shoe/drum types??
thanks for the reply
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10-10-2018, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timgarmon
Hi, how much was the kit to have disc brakers for your northpoint. Have you pulled your RV and how does the disc brakes work compared to the shoe/drum types??
thanks for the reply
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The kit was 1620. I ordered it from stopyourtrailer.com
Have not pulled with it yet. Weather and family responsibilities have delayed finishing the install. From all others who’ve done the conversion, the difference is night and day.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-18-2018, 06:37 AM
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If the weather ever clears, I’ll get back to finish up the install
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-18-2018, 06:46 AM
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Location: Saint Thomas, PA
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Hoping to get to my install this November if the weather doesn't get too cold. My electric brakes aren't worth a "insert lots of cuss words". My truck brakes are shot and need replacing as well now.
My magnets ohm to spec. My amp draw is within spec. I redone the axle connections properly. Redone the 7-way connections at the pin box. Adjusted the brakes several times. Dealer inspected them for grease, seals leaking but not onto shoes, drum or magnets. Tech said he believes they aren't using good enough brake lining. I have decent brakes at low speed like under 40. Speeds higher and nothing there. I can do 70 and throw the manual lever full on with full voltage and feel nothing. Tried another brake controller. Tried my bed and bumper 7-way connections. Voltage reads correct. No issues on other trailers. So it's long over due to throw disc brakes on it. The dealer tech even recommend discs.
Earl
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10-18-2018, 08:10 AM
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Earl
Just a guess but if everything is in spec, and there’s no grease on the shoes, could the drums be worn too much? Did the dealer measure the diameter of the drum
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-18-2018, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
If the weather ever clears, I’ll get back to finish up the install
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I’ve been silently wondering when we would hear from you again if you ever finished the install. Shade trees are just that...unfortunately not umbrellas. [emoji22]
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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10-18-2018, 08:20 AM
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Darin
I had a chance to finish last week but we had to house some family members in the trailer as a guest suite due to a death in the family. Now rain every day is really starting to annoy me as I have been so anxious to get it done and test it out.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-18-2018, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
Earl
Just a guess but if everything is in spec, and there’s no grease on the shoes, could the drums be worn too much? Did the dealer measure the diameter of the drum
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Drums are fine. Issue has been since I took delivery when it was new. First thought they needed time to wear in. But no change. Tech says they have weak brake complaints all the time with lippert axles.
Earl
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10-18-2018, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mopar_Earl
Drums are fine. Issue has been since I took delivery when it was new. First thought they needed time to wear in. But no change. Tech says they have weak brake complaints all the time with lippert axles.
Earl
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Yep, looks like you’ve got no choice but to upgrade to discs. Hopefully I’ll be able to report my results soon.
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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10-18-2018, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
Yep, looks like you’ve got no choice but to upgrade to discs. Hopefully I’ll be able to report my results soon.
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Yep and I have everything to do it. Just need the time. Trips and working full time doesn't leave me much "free" time.
Earl
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10-18-2018, 08:39 AM
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#77
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Full timing in the 377, but Llano, Texas is now home
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
Darin
I had a chance to finish last week but we had to house some family members in the trailer as a guest suite due to a death in the family. Now rain every day is really starting to annoy me as I have been so anxious to get it done and test it out.
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Sorry to hear that, my sincere condolences to the family. This weather has been incredible lately, 2 record rain events in a weeks time near our property in Llano. We’re driving out there today to inspect things. My trailer brakes were most excellent in yesterdays towing to Enchanted Rock. I had the gain (-9 0 +9)turned down to almost low it goes and set it back to 0 (which is half, for all this extra weight in the rig) and just pushing the red button on the controller slows both trailer and tv to a stop in surprising short distance, when traction is good. Incredible stopping power. However in yesterday’s misting fog, a light changed on me going 40 in a slight valley and I had to panic stop starting with red button, and tv brakes, the rig must have skidded and pushed me past the stop line 6 feet.
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2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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10-18-2018, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mopar_Earl
Drums are fine. Issue has been since I took delivery when it was new. First thought they needed time to wear in. But no change. Tech says they have weak brake complaints all the time with lippert axles.
Earl
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I can imagine this now, but weak is an understatement on Lippert axles. I had NONE when I pulled my new 377 off the dealer lot. And so did the neighbors new Eagle who camped next to us at the Dealer that delivery weekend. He couldn’t get his brakes to engage.
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2007 Dodge Ram 3500 Laramie MC 4x2 DRW 6.7CTD, B&W Companion Slider 3405, Edge Evolution CS (deleted DPF/DOC-special tune), TireMinder TM-77, Firestone air springs, CustomFlow tailgate, Tonnosport tonneau cover, Champion 3100w genset
2017 Jayco North Point 377RLBH w/Kodiak disc brakes/Titan actuator, Truma AquaGo Comfort, Sailun S637, home of Darin & Dana. Where the 377 has been towed since 5/27/16:
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10-18-2018, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dskyward
I can imagine this now, but weak is an understatement on Lippert axles. I had NONE when I pulled my new 377 off the dealer lot. And so did the neighbors new Eagle who camped next to us at the Dealer that delivery weekend. He couldn’t get his brakes to engage.
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I have weak under 40 mph, none at speeds above. I agree with the tech that the lining is crap. Also the magnets could be crap too. Unfortunately I runined the brakes on my truck with an exhaust brake stopping it. So I now have rotors and pads to do on my truck as well. Just not enough time.
Earl
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10-18-2018, 12:05 PM
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#80
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North Point 377 RLBH disc brake conversion
Got a little break in the weather so I decided to get back to the install
Another drum with light grease
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2016 North Point 377 RLBH, with a few mods, disc brakes, shocks, Sailun g rated tires, wet bolts
2014 Ford F350 Platinum sold
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, 6.7PSD, DRW, Trailer Saver BD3 hitch
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