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Old 11-05-2015, 06:53 PM   #11
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The pin weight recommendations are there for handling reasons. Yes, loading weight behind the axle will lighten the pin weight. But if you go too far the handling of the combo will be compromised. Try to stay within the 15 to 25% range.
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:31 PM   #12
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The trailer has a receiver that the salesman told me I could fit a motorcycle rack to and carry my '72 Norton commando. Total weight of rack and motorcycle is 500 pounds. Jayco says the capacity for this receiver is 300 pounds. Salesman said receiver could be reinforced to accommodate rack/motorcycle. This would void frame warranty. But would it void the rest of the warranties? Would the additional 500 pounds at the rear of the trailer lowering the pin weight enough? W/my 2080 payload I would need to lower pin weight to at most 1500 to be right up to max gvwr fully loaded. Is that too low of a pin weight to be safe. Thinkin outside the box a little. What I truly need to do is hook up and hit the scales. I don't want to be illegal. What do air bags do other than level and smooth the ride? Would they only camouflage my overweight condition ?

Sorry for presenting this convoluted mess but I need some help
First off this salesman is a winner! IMHO I think you will be fine on the pin with this trailer and your TV stock. It might squat at little more than desired, but not at pickup as this will be lightest your camper will ever be until you sell it. Yes airbags are somewhat of a mask, but they do support weight. Where did you get your weight capacity from. All the literature and specs I find are all north of 3100# payload for the 2015 F250's.

Now for the bad news. No way that receiver is going to hold a motorcycle and no way would I trust it. The forces that take place back there are severe and rough enough just on a regular bike rack that only a few are rated to hold up.

If this salesman truly did mislead you to a unit that you are very uncomfortable with then I would go and talk to his manager and see if you can cancel the order. This is a long shot, but it might be worth the shot.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:04 PM   #13
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The pin weight recommendations are there for handling reasons. Yes, loading weight behind the axle will lighten the pin weight. But if you go too far the handling of the combo will be compromised. Try to stay within the 15 to 25% range.
Our "hitch guy" told us that he took a swivel-wheel platform off a guy's fifth wheel because, when it was loaded, unweighted the pin so much that it was scary to tow. It =is= something to be aware of.

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Old 11-06-2015, 07:43 AM   #14
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First off this salesman is a winner! IMHO I think you will be fine on the pin with this trailer and your TV stock. It might squat at little more than desired, but not at pickup as this will be lightest your camper will ever be until you sell it. Yes airbags are somewhat of a mask, but they do support weight. Where did you get your weight capacity from. All the literature and specs I find are all north of 3100# payload for the 2015 F250's.

Now for the bad news. No way that receiver is going to hold a motorcycle and no way would I trust it. The forces that take place back there are severe and rough enough just on a regular bike rack that only a few are rated to hold up.

If this salesman truly did mislead you to a unit that you are very uncomfortable with then I would go and talk to his manager and see if you can cancel the order. This is a long shot, but it might be worth the shot.

The payload is on the sticker driver side door. 2080
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The payload is on the sticker driver side door. 2080
Rick,

I would suggest you take your truck to a CAT scale and get your truck weighed. If you can, get the truck weighed with everything in it that would be there when you would be pulling the FW.
This way you know what your exact payload is on both truck and rear axle.

Take into consideration other things beside the 5vr Pin weight that will decrease payload like:
- Added passengers (listed payload only accounts for driver).
- FW Hitch installed in Bed (if it's not there now).
- Additional cargo in the truck cab and bed.

These items could reduce your payload by 300 - 500#.

For me, my FW Hitch and other stuff in the bed of the truck weighs ~300# before taking into account adding weight of passengers in the truck.

I think you'll find that your actual payload is below what's posted on your door sticker.

Hope this was of some help.
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Thanks guys! I'll put it on the scale when it's ready to be picked up. If my figuring is correct I'll be between 150-200lbs over. I'm resigned to this. Have to see how it handles on the way home, 100 miles
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Rgrigutis,

Our FBTS has a 2" receiver under the backend, too. All I ever plan on putting back there are two bicycles.

To answer your question about voiding the warranties on everything, my opinion is this. If you do have the hitch reinforced to carry 500 pounds and something else happens, that would be a good excuse for any warranty issues to be denied. I wouldn't do it. But, that is just my 2 cents.
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Hate to say this, but by the time you have the family in the truck and hitch in the bed, propane tanks full and battery, etc, I think you will be a good bit over the payload and rawr. Double check the tires too. I have a 7000lb axle, and tires are rated at 7280....and I would figure on 20% or so of the loaded camper weight for pin weight. It is very, very easy to have 1000-1500lbs added to a camper with food, pots, pans, chairs, grills, etc...it adds up quick. Definitely hit a CAT scale as soon as you can. Good luck
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