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Old 06-18-2017, 06:30 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the information and the concerns.I do appreciate it.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:04 AM   #12
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i've got the crewmax and have wanted a 5er ever since we got into the RV lifestyle but can't justify it. Few things I've come to realize:
- as you stated, the Crewmax box is short. That back seat is the best of any half ton out there still, but you pay for it. You'd need a slider hitch, which adds more weight and further eats into your payload.
- the payload is pretty low. All that extra cab space eats up some weight as well. Getting any decent 5er under the limit with room for people, fuel and all the shtuff you can fit into that giant back seat was pretty much a no go for me.
- I love that full back sliding window too much to want to smash the nose of a 5er through it!

I've got a TT that is (just) under the hitch limit for the crewmax (while being lots under the towing capacity). Its not exactly what we want, but its what our current TV will handle. No concerns on power or braking, but I would not go any higher in hitch weight nor get a 5er wth the tundra.

All that being said, its the greatest half ton truck I've ever owned. If I was in the market for another half ton, I'd get another in a heartbeat, no questions asked. My wife and I both feel its unfortunate they don't make a 3/4 or ton model as I'd be in one of those in a second as well. But for now, for us to get a 5er we like, we are going to get a 3/4 or 1 ton SRW to not be worried.
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Best thing to do is cancel your order and get the right truck for the job.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:18 PM   #14
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That is a scary sight going down the road overloaded with kids in the truck.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:43 PM   #15
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I think the man has a death wish. Overloaded with wife and kids in the truck and all because he likes the woefully inadequate Tundra instead of a Silverado 2500HD or a Ford F250, both with towing
packages and 4:10 gears?????

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Old 06-19-2017, 01:38 PM   #16
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The OP has the double cab, but ordered the crew cab. The double cab would have slightly more payload. If he has the Limited (or tow package), he'd have bigger springs as well. Not to say he's not currently over the payload, but I believe he's got a better payload than the crewmax would.

Assuming the aforementioned weights for the trailer are correct, I would amend the previous message to say that any half ton is inadequate and he probably needs a 3/4 ton or higher.

As to his original question about turning, even if payload was within spec, i wouldn't do it with the crewmax (with slider). Still a great truck though.
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That is a scary sight going down the road overloaded with kids in the truck.
To me what is even scarier is how nonchalant the replies seem (to me anyway): "I know all the weights.... twos years no problem..... thanks for the concern....". Maybe I have misread (misinterpreted) them, but it comes across like a complete disregard for the others on the road as well.... Which could very well be one of us!!!

Even though that 5r model line has a "HT" designation, very few of them are actually within a 1500/150 payload. Now if one disregards the actually payload, there may be a couple more that would squeak by under the rar. Another case of misleading marketing just like the truck manufactures 1500/150 "tow ratings".

Heck, the 29.5 BHDS would be pushing the rated payload of my HD, which is 275Xlbs. It would probably be under the rar by a fair amount, but still. That rig is definitely a 2500/250+ model, just like our 32 BHDS.
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......On a side note, in an accident your illegal......
Actually, probably not. Legal weights are governed by commercial trucks and axle loads that our rigs will never get close to. I haven't seen a state law that states it is illegal to exceed manufacturers loads. I'd like to be proven wrong on that!
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I would not want to have go defend myself, after admitting in a public forum. That I knew the weight limits of my vehicle and knowingly exceeded them, contributing to a death. While you may not get ticketed for illegal weights a civil court is entirely different. The first thing any I vestigatir would do is search on line for incrimanating statements.

I love my tundra but would not put myself my family or anyone else on the highway in danger because I liked a particular vehicle, which I knew was incapable of safely towing my RV. Very selfish choice.
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Actually, probably not. Legal weights are governed by commercial trucks and axle loads that our rigs will never get close to. I haven't seen a state law that states it is illegal to exceed manufacturers loads. I'd like to be proven wrong on that!


Thank you. The only truthful post here.

By no means would I recommend pulling this trailer with a half ton, but for what seems like the 100th time, PAYLOAD RATINGS ARE NOT LEGAL LIMITS. Every state in the union sets limits based on axle ratings ONLY. Only passenger vehicles even have a payload rating, because on a commercial truck that gets upfitted the manufacturer has no idea what the final iteration will weigh.

Live and let live, and please stop passing the notion that towing over payload or over tow rating in a privately owned vehicle is illegal. It is not in the US, period, there is no jurisdiction anywhere that can cite you for it because there is no rule of law to govern it.


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