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Old 12-02-2014, 05:30 PM   #11
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I did ask dexters dealer about up grading to 6000 lb axles and he said its the same axle with heavier springs, the tube thickness is the same. So I stayed with the 5200 lb axles, remember that the axles do not hold all the weight of the trailer, its axles plus pin weight. I have weight mine once while on a holiday, I had just emptied the gray and black tanks and had about 1/2 to 2/3 fresh on board and the axle weight was 8800 lbs or 4400 lbs per axle
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:44 PM   #12
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The gross weight on my 338 rlts is 11,000 lbs. and I also have Dexter 5200 lb. axles. Let us know what you find out. Not sure what "bent" axle means, but most trailer axles have a fixed "bow" in them including Dexter axles giving the tires some camber to prevent inside tread wear. A "flat" axle will cause inside tread wear for sure.
wwsmith111, Thanks for your response, yes I understand the axles are bowed to have the correct camber but I can visually see that both wheels on my rear axle are leaning inward (incorrect camber) which will wear out the inner edges of both rear tires. The gross weight listed on the sticker on my 2013 Jayco 31.5 RLTS Eagle is 11,900 lbs. and that is also listed as the gross weight list in their sales brochure. http://dexteraxle.com/i/u/6149609/f/...te_Catalog.pdf, if you go to page 41 of this Dexter axle file you will see that they do have a D60 Leaf Spring axle in the 6 lug beside the one with 8 lug hubs. It's worth the read and gave me insite when I speak with Dexter and my Camping World service department I'm dealing with in a way I will be fully informed so I wont get the run a round!
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:14 PM   #13
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I did ask dexters dealer about up grading to 6000 lb axles and he said its the same axle with heavier springs, the tube thickness is the same. So I stayed with the 5200 lb axles, remember that the axles do not hold all the weight of the trailer, its axles plus pin weight. I have weight mine once while on a holiday, I had just emptied the gray and black tanks and had about 1/2 to 2/3 fresh on board and the axle weight was 8800 lbs or 4400 lbs per axle
Timber, the first trip I made with my 5 er', I went directly to the scales before leaving town to check my loaded weight, I only had about 1/3rd fresh water tank, both grey tanks and black tank was empty. I know the unloaded vehicle weight is 9,105 lbs. and with my 2 generators, EU-2000 & EU2000I and 10 gallons of spare gas and all my camping equip. like chairs, tables, b.b.q, dog kennels and dogs, we weighed in at roughly around 9,450 lbs (can't tell you exactly due to may scales slip receipt is in my 5 er' at Camping World service dept.) and I was surprised at that weight loaded and would have thought it would have been higher closer to the max. weight?
I had noticed both rear axle wheels seemed visually to have been leaning inward at the the top of each wheel, had mentioned it to the salesman when I purchased it and he said it was just cause the way it was backed into its location??? But looking underneath you can visually see the rear axle doesn't seem to have as much crown bowed into it as the front axle and that effect the camber which too little will cause them to lean inward and lead to inner tire wear!!! You have to realize that while traveling as the trailer goes over bumps and driveways etc. that weight is magnified as it bounces on the springs. So I don't know if whoever you spoke with at Dexter just didn't want to warranty you axle or not but would be thinking that the D52 axle with a 5,200 lbs and a D60 axle with a 6,000 rating would be of a thicker wall 3" axel? Just know that my rear tires are worn really bad for just 5,082 miles and want to get this warrantied!!!:
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Old 12-03-2014, 05:42 PM   #14
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From what I have seen this is a common problem . I think most people don't put enough miles on to ever know. They usually replace them from weather check or age. I had a jayco designer that the left rear tire would wear on the inside you would notice after about 8,000 miles . A friend had all four wear on his Sunny brook after about 4,000 it wasn't under warrantee so he took it to a garage that had a way to straighten and re align the axles . On his second year and seems to have solved his problem . Makes you wonder if their isn't a quality control issue at dexter or where they install the axle to the frame ?
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From what I have seen this is a common problem . I think most people don't put enough miles on to ever know. They usually replace them from weather check or age. I had a jayco designer that the left rear tire would wear on the inside you would notice after about 8,000 miles . A friend had all four wear on his Sunny brook after about 4,000 it wasn't under warrantee so he took it to a garage that had a way to straighten and re align the axles . On his second year and seems to have solved his problem . Makes you wonder if their isn't a quality control issue at dexter or where they install the axle to the frame ?
Clayton4971- I still haven't got to call and speak with Dexter, my wife is getting ready to have a surgery and I have gathered all the info I need to give Dexter except for the casting number on the swivel between the front and rear springs. Hoping to get it real soon so I can call them and have everything I need to give them over the phone then just send them the pictures they will request I imagine of the tire wear and possible the axle and I can give them one of visually looking at the front and rear wheels and can notice the rear wheels are both tilted inward at the top!!! I understand that part of the GVWR is on the tow vehicle but if it is fully loaded to almost the max GVWR which is 11,900 lbs and the D52 axles rated at 5,200 lbs. times 2 = 10,400, they would be 1,500 lbs. less than GVWR. I would think they would use the D60 6,000 lbs axles so under and extreme rough road or speed bumps they would be atleast 100 lbs. over the GVWR. Another posted on here that they spoke not to Dexter but a Dexter dealer about upgrading to the D60 and they told him the axle was the same diameter tubing wall thickness that they just add more leaf springs??? I need to verify that when I speak to Dexter and anyway do not feel that they should be bending in just as little as 5,082 miles that I've put on it since Nov. 2013!!! I had noticed it when I bought it by the wheels tilted inward in the rear axle and believed the salesman who sad it was just from they way they jack knifed it into place, but after noticing the bad wear on the inner edges of both rear tires that this could be very dangerous to myself and family or anyone else if I had lost one or two tires while driving down the road!!! Thank you for you post on this issue.
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The lady that I talked to at Dexter told me they supply the axles to Jayco and its Jayco who decides what axle for each trailer and installs them themselves.
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The lady that I talked to at Dexter told me they supply the axles to Jayco and its Jayco who decides what axle for each trailer and installs them themselves.
Timber- I spoke with the Camping World service adviser yesterday afternoon and he verified that Dexter did say that they will warranty the rear axle and will be shipped out and will be at my CW service department within 1-2 weeks but the service adviser told me they will have to ship the bad axle back to them for Dexter to test it and if it was bad that they would then replace my two rear axle tires!!! Hopefully it was just a quality control issue and is not within their specs. so the new D52 will not be a problem like the one you had r&r'd on yours, and they will replace my tires also. But seems to me that the cost to ship the axle assembly back to Indiana would be more cost to them than to just replace 2 tires??? I still plan on giving them a call next week when I get time!!!
Thanks for you information that you provided for me & the rest on this forum that has, it is an excellent resource for learning and trying to solve issues! Just excited to get it corrected and be able to get back out on the road with it and enjoy R.V.ing!!!
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Drove by the CW dealership doing he warranty work at their service dept. on my 2013 Eagle 31.5 RLTS 5th wheel and happy to say that Dexter stepped up and warrantied my rear axle which came in complete with springs, brakes and two new tires also!!! Shouldn't be long now till I can get it back home and get it covered for the winter, but will be ready to go come spring time!!!
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If you can have them check the seals on the hubs. Dexter has had some issues of late with the factory pumping too much grease in them and blowing the rear seal. You can't tell until you pull the brake drum off. AL-CO has also had this issue.
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I am glad it all worked out well for you.
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