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11-17-2015, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by poohbear
That's 2 of us. I have had about every type / brand and couldn't be happier with the Andersen.
ETEX211,didnt you have a Reese Goosebox for sale a while back or was that another Sulphur Springs RV'er?
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I've still got it. You know anybody that's interested?
Here is my craigslist ad. I've also got it listed in the classified section of this forum...
http://easttexas.craigslist.org/pts/5270429251.html
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11-17-2015, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero_Dave
Ok, what about the 'chucking' while towing. Do you not get that still with the Anderson, since there is nothing to absorbs the shocks.
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I don't get any chucking with the Andersen. I believe the chucking is caused by the leverage created by the gooseneck tube, not by the actual hitch connection.
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11-18-2015, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero_Dave
Ok, what about the 'chucking' while towing. Do you not get that still with the Anderson, since there is nothing to absorbs the shocks.
Dave...
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NO FRICKIN CHUCKIN, BUCKIN,BANGIN,CLANGIN .one more time,best hitch you can get without going to a $2500+ air hitch,IMHO.
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11-18-2015, 04:19 PM
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I read a story here a while back about gooseneck doing some serious damage.
It was a guy who bought a used 5th wheel who the previous owner used a gooseneck adapter on.
He changed it back to 5th wheel only to find the frame all broken up. He didn't notice at first, towed for quite a while when he noticed the trailer basically resting on the bed rails of his truck.
Luckily he found a mobile welder to come out to the campground he was stuck at.
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11-18-2015, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poohbear
NO FRICKIN CHUCKIN, BUCKIN,BANGIN,CLANGIN .one more time,best hitch you can get without going to a $2500+ air hitch,IMHO.
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OK, so help me understand how this is possible? If everything is Fixed, how does do the road expansion joints Not transfer from the Trailer to the Truck?
If I add the MOR/ryde onto the Kin Pin, the Andersen Adapter will need to be Welded to the MOR/ryde plate. According to their web site.
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11-18-2015, 06:40 PM
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The Anderson has an aluminum milled block that you pound onto the king pin and torque down the allen set screws to hold it in place.
Mor Ryde or stock pin there is no welding required for the Anderson Ultimate hitch.
But, if you need to drop off your rig for warranty work you will need to leave your hitch and hope the dealer can accept a goose hitch.
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11-18-2015, 10:25 PM
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X2 for the Andersen
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11-19-2015, 09:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3'senough
The Anderson has an aluminum milled block that you pound onto the king pin and torque down the allen set screws to hold it in place.
Mor Ryde or stock pin there is no welding required for the Anderson Ultimate hitch.
But, if you need to drop off your rig for warranty work you will need to leave your hitch and hope the dealer can accept a goose hitch.
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You don't know how the adapter works obviously.No pounding,fits on pin then 2 bolts secure like jaws on old style hitch,4 screws then are tightened .Takes about 2minutes to remove.
I have no explanation as to smoothness but it works.your welcome to stop by & take a ride.
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11-19-2015, 09:44 PM
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Ok I think I've done enough reading / research to make my decision. I'm going with the Andersen Ultimate Gooseneck. With their $5 Million rider I have no concerns with using their product. It will work perfect with my B&W Turnover ball & Firestone Ride-Rite Airbags.
Thanks,
Dave...
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11-19-2015, 09:57 PM
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=Larry G.;356177]Agree Grumpy.
I don't even remember the last time I saw someone using a gooseneck to pull a 5ver. I do see some pickup trucks pulling horse trailers once in awhile though.
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I would think pulling a Horse trailer (using a Gooseneck) the owners would be Much more worried about Live Animals vers a Camper, no? Maybe the (idea) of using a Gooseneck to tow a camper just hasn't caught-on as much Yet. Doesn't mean it's not better or safer. After all, Lipert has already started to endorse the Reese Gooseneck with their frames. That tells me, they've done more research than I have.
Just My .02 cents.
Dave...
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11-20-2015, 08:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poohbear
You don't know how the adapter works obviously.No pounding,fits on pin then 2 bolts secure like jaws on old style hitch,4 screws then are tightened .Takes about 2minutes to remove.
I have no explanation as to smoothness but it works.your welcome to stop by & take a ride.
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Well the one that went on my previous unit was pounded on, by me and the new buyer with a 4x4 and sledge at pick up...
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11-20-2015, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 3'senough
Well the one that went on my previous unit was pounded on, by me and the new buyer with a 4x4 and sledge at pick up...
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You must of had an out of round pin as mine just pushes up with one hand & I push in bolts .the bolts around the pin do fit snug but a sledge not required.stop by & will demonstrate
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11-22-2015, 08:31 PM
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This topic gives me a headache every time it is posted. I love all you guys that comment on how a goose neck setup won't pull as good as a 5th wheel hitch most likely have never pulled a big 5th wheel with a Reese Goosebox. It also amazes me that someone always talks to someone at Jayco and says that they said it will void the warranty because it is a modification. So if I decided to put a better quality 5th wheel pin box on my Pinnacle, that would also void my warranty because it is a modification from the original is total "BS". The country's largest Jayco dealer offer an upgrade to a Reese Goosebox at delivery. The Goosebox offers me a better pull than any other 5th wheel pull I've ever had. The shocks, the air bag properly inflated, makes the pull very stable and quiet. Yes, for an old fat man, the chains are not fun, but the reward outweighs the pain. I am pulling a 2012 REQS Pinnacle with never a problem. I guess if I spent as much money to clutter up the bed of my truck as some of you guys have, then I probably couldn't accept the fact that there is a better way. This is my opinion, I have experienced both ways of pulling my 5th wheel and will never go back to a 5th wheel setup.
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11-22-2015, 09:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaserv
This topic gives me a headache every time it is posted. I love all you guys that comment on how a goose neck setup won't pull as good as a 5th wheel hitch most likely have never pulled a big 5th wheel with a Reese Goosebox. It also amazes me that someone always talks to someone at Jayco and says that they said it will void the warranty because it is a modification. So if I decided to put a better quality 5th wheel pin box on my Pinnacle, that would also void my warranty because it is a modification from the original is total "BS". The country's largest Jayco dealer offer an upgrade to a Reese Goosebox at delivery. The Goosebox offers me a better pull than any other 5th wheel pull I've ever had. The shocks, the air bag properly inflated, makes the pull very stable and quiet. Yes, for an old fat man, the chains are not fun, but the reward outweighs the pain. I am pulling a 2012 REQS Pinnacle with never a problem. I guess if I spent as much money to clutter up the bed of my truck as some of you guys have, then I probably couldn't accept the fact that there is a better way. This is my opinion, I have experienced both ways of pulling my 5th wheel and will never go back to a 5th wheel setup.
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Amen!!!!
Its obvious that most folks jump to conclusions without having all the facts. a Reese goose box replaces all the components that attach to the frame of the trailer that was the issue of frame stress with the gooseneck adapters. The Andersen ultimate doesn't change anything except it uses a 2 5/16 ball for the connector. Some want to argue that there is four points of anchor in your truck bed with a traditional FW hitch. Take a look at how the gooseneck ball is attached in your truck. To both frame rails!!!! Im sure this point will surface again. But neither are add on gooseneck adapters.
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11-23-2015, 08:26 AM
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Well, since I'm the OP, I'm just telling everyone what I was told BY JAYCO. Here is a copy of the conversation:
Good morning,
Dave, it would void the A frame part of the frame and whatever that hitch touches.
The reason that this would void your warranty is because it is considered a modification, there isn’t any adapter that would be covered under your warranty.
Thank you
Josh Abbs
Josh Abbs
Customer Service Specialist
Jayco Towable Inc.
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Originally Posted by gaserv
The country's largest Jayco dealer offer an upgrade to a Reese Goosebox at delivery.
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OK, so which Dealer is offering the Reese Gooseneck as a Factory option at time of delivery?Do they put in Writing that your frame warranty is not Voided, because of this option, or are they just selling more parts-for-profit?
Dave...
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11-23-2015, 08:46 AM
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Just for the sake of clarity. the Reese goosebox is not the same as a gooseneck adapter.
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11-23-2015, 09:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WVDusty
Just for the sake of clarity. the Reese goosebox is not the same as a gooseneck adapter.
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Yes I know. I even sent Josh a link to the Reese Gooseneck # 94622 and even asked how can Reese claim there are OE certified by Lippert as ok to use. Again he said "JAYCO" will void your frame warranty because it is a modification.
Either way, I'm done researching this subject. I'm going with the Andersen Ultimate with my B&W Turnover for my setup.
Dave...
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11-23-2015, 10:24 AM
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I am confused on how the Reese box works. Is it big enough that it drops to the bed of the truck to hook up to the ball on the bed? If so, how does it work when used with the Anderson that is much higher than the bed of the truck?
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11-23-2015, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klassic
I am confused on how the Reese box works. Is it big enough that it drops to the bed of the truck to hook up to the ball on the bed? If so, how does it work when used with the Anderson that is much higher than the bed of the truck?
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The Goose box replaces the factory 5th wheel pin box and connects directly to a gooseneck ball in the bed of your truck.
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11-23-2015, 10:40 AM
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So an Anderson hitch is only used with a regular king pin and the adapter.
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