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Old 11-14-2015, 09:10 AM   #21
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When I bought by first FW, I got the V gate because I figured it would when I hit the tailgate with the FW hitch, not when. Up to now, 22 years, we haven't hit the FW tailgate with the hitch and we have not yet had to put it down with hitching up or un-hitching. I don't believe it does a thing for mileage while you are towing that big sail behind you and, we have enough storage in our trailer that we carry almost nothing in the bed when towing. Our hitch is a two-piece one with the capture plate being able to be taken off before removing the base. For me, at 71, both are somewhat heavy, but it is doable without having to resort, yet, to mechanical help. Also, since I am also retired, I don't have to use the truck for work.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:00 PM   #22
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When I bought by first FW, I got the V gate because I figured it would when I hit the tailgate with the FW hitch, not when. Up to now, 22 years, we haven't hit the FW tailgate with the hitch and we have not yet had to put it down with hitching up or un-hitching. I don't believe it does a thing for mileage while you are towing that big sail behind you and, we have enough storage in our trailer that we carry almost nothing in the bed when towing. Our hitch is a two-piece one with the capture plate being able to be taken off before removing the base. For me, at 71, both are somewhat heavy, but it is doable without having to resort, yet, to mechanical help. Also, since I am also retired, I don't have to use the truck for work.
No issues in 22 years means you pay attention! Good work.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:05 PM   #23
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:09 PM   #24
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I have simple ways of looking at these things.
1) If you have a truck, buy a 5th wheel or travel trailer.
2) If you want to take a long trip, stay at hotels along the way, and probably stay with family at your destination, take a car, a plane, or a B Class RV.
3) If you are paying cash, buy used and diy repairs/upgrades.
3a) If the bank is financing it, buy new and complain about how much you are paying for it, but really aren't...the bank paid for it.
3b) If you bought a luxury RV, it probably has low mileage because you thought it was a great place to have your neighbors over for drinks to talk about your future travels you won't take.
4) If you have a young family = kids...buy a Class C, TT, 5th, or a tent.
5) If you are full timing, buy an A if you will be traveling, a 5th if you will stay in one place for a month or more.
6) If you pull toys, race, have a trike plane or mini helicopter, get a super C or toy hauler.
7) Buy a gasser for your favorite places about an hour or two from home. Beyond that, you will buy diesel unless you like arguing about how wonderful a gasser is, and never tire of not convincing anyone unless they also own a gasser.

If the above doesn't cover it, it probably doesn't matter. A trip to Panama might be better.
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:07 PM   #25
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Having started with the TT and a 1500 to pull it I can say that it was white knuckle. Having pulled the TT with my first dually was another experience all together. Did not even use the WDH the first time.

Enter the 5'th wheel and that was it for us. High ceilings a door on my room and kids and a shower I could fit in. I know there are TT's out there that offer the same, but I was sold on a 5'er. We do not regret it at all.

Pulling down the highway is a whole lot better experience, but some argue that with the proper tuned WDH it is comparable.

Bed space is lost to a degree, but you can still put stuff in the front of and below the hitch. Also I can fit my genny under my unit and tucked in the back passenger corner without interference. Firewood(locally), pop tents, blocking and a kids bike have all fit.

Connecting is a push of the button and no chains to deal with. You can and I recommend a bed plug for your 7 pin connector. It allows you to open the tailgate and reduces snags when you are turning. They make easy plug and play kits to install, but you will have to drill a hole in the bed.

Cons are heights can exceed some bridge clearances and trees can be a hassle to clear. Some state campgrounds cannot take units like mine or over 35ft. If you frequent State CG's do your homework first or you might loose some CG's.

Plus is your overall length is shorter and you can make some real tight turns to get in a spot.

You would be hard pressed to put me back in a TT at this point in time.
As far as 7 pin connectors, I know that Dodge Ram has the connector already in the bed on my 2013-3500 Mega cab shortbed dually diesel!!! No holes to drill for me!!!
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As far as 7 pin connectors, I know that Dodge Ram has the connector already in the bed on my 2013-3500 Mega cab shortbed dually diesel!!! No holes to drill for me!!!
Mine did as well, but it's only on the 5'th wheel prep groups. However on my old 03 F350 I installed one in about 30 minutes by way of drilling.

E-Trailer has some great videos showing the process. Some late model trucks have the place molded into the bed for ease of location placement since it's offered from the factory as an option.
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Those are some good comments Rodgers. Thanks for the responses everyone. The wife wants to look at other brand 5ver's. I really wanna stick with Jayco. I really like the quality of there units. She gets upset with me that I really don't wanna give another brand a chance. I am not sure what other brands make a bunkhouse model with the bath and a half. This is going to be an adventure. We have to start hitting some RV shows. I don't wanna talk taboo but what other brands would be on par with Jayco, or you would consider. I don't even like typing that. I am not a big fan of Keystone. So if you would lets talk brands and if you would consider them.
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I will echo what's been said about the 5th. We've pulled ours almost 2 years and love it. There have been a couple of times I wished for the bed space (like when I see folks arrive with a golf cart in the bed and towing a bumper-pull). That said, the basement storage is very large and convenient.
I had issues lining up the pin to the hitch when we first got it because I couldn't see the hitch plate from the driver's seat. I hit on using the magnetic hitching aids I bought from Harbor Freight when we had the X23B (yellow sponge ball on the end of a telescoping antenna mounted to a magnet). I stick one of them onto the hitch plate in front of the pin slot about an inch back from the front edge of the plate. The "antenna" is visible via the rearview and lining it up with the pin allows me to slide back onto the pin almost perfectly. When the "antenna" starts to get pushed over by the pin box I know the hitch is about to latch.
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Not hijacking this thread..but wanted to say that is a great idea with the magnetic ball. This new truck I have the center seat has a headrest right in my line of vision. I going to try that trick.
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