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09-15-2017, 11:39 AM
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Timbren SES Bump Stops?
My new Pinnacle is about 3000lbs heavier than my previous unit, and causes my 2016 RAM 2500 Laramie Longhorn 4*4 to squat down quite a bit.
Anyone have an experience with the Timbren SES bump stops? I'm not a big fan of air bags if I don't have to.
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09-15-2017, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoonerCamper
Anyone have an experience with the Timbren SES bump stops? I'm not a big fan of air bags if I don't have to.
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Used them on several trucks and very satisfied. I too am not a fan of air-bags.
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09-15-2017, 01:09 PM
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Definitely fixes the sag. And way less expensive and involved than airbags.
What is your payload cap on that truck? A 3/4 ton seems a bit under spec for a Pinnacle...
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09-15-2017, 02:03 PM
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Yep, I have them on my truck too and I only have 1800lb of pin weight.
Air bags work better but are a lot more involved to install. Add in the cost of the on board compressor and gauge (required as far as I am concerned) and they are more expensive as well.
The Timbrens took me about 20min to install, start to finish. No jacking, no wheel removal, no drilling.
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09-15-2017, 02:30 PM
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I do not care for air bags either. I have a set of Firestone Work-Rites that replace the OE bump stops and Sumo Super Springs in the front and rear coils. The set up helps with load sag and cornering. Both have been worth the modest investment, and both took little time to install myself.
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09-15-2017, 05:30 PM
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Put them on my 2016 Ram and so far have been very impressed.
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09-15-2017, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ecksdude
Definitely fixes the sag. And way less expensive and involved than airbags.
What is your payload cap on that truck? A 3/4 ton seems a bit under spec for a Pinnacle...
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It's close. GVR on the rig is 16,900 which is capacity. I weighed it at 15,600 loaded (no water). One ton is in the future, but not for a year or two.
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09-15-2017, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmac
Put them on my 2016 Ram and so far have been very impressed.
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I had them on my '14 2500 and loved them...just sayin!
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09-16-2017, 07:05 PM
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I installed SuperSprings on my truck. I also did not want air bags. The springs work great with both loaded and unloaded bed. Look into them as they perform like advertised.
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09-17-2017, 08:56 AM
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I've had Timbrens and they worked as designed but I found the ride when towing to be too harsh. I have now install AirCell's on my Ram 2500. They still provide the level secure towing but seem a little softer on the bumps. Both go un-noticed when empty. I also found the AirCells easier to install and change spacers if needed.
https://www.airliftcompany.com/products/other/aircell/
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09-19-2017, 06:49 PM
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Its not a matter if air bags will fail.............. It's just a matter of when......
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09-19-2017, 07:09 PM
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I read all the reviews I could find on Timbrens and decided they were for me so I ordered a set. Only then did I see the Q&A section they sent me and in this they recommend you do not use Timbrens and a weight distribution hitch together. I pull a goose neck trailer once in a while and they would have helped in this application but most of the time I pull the RV with the hitch. They are being returned. I lose $20.00 on shipping but at least it's not all lost.
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09-19-2017, 07:51 PM
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I have been using them pulling my T29a Octane using a Husky Centerline WDH for 4 years, over 50k miles without any issues. Don't know what the problem would be unless they interfered with the hitch setup. Mine didn't.
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09-19-2017, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racinforthefinish
I read all the reviews I could find on Timbrens and decided they were for me so I ordered a set. Only then did I see the Q&A section they sent me and in this they recommend you do not use Timbrens and a weight distribution hitch together. I pull a goose neck trailer once in a while and they would have helped in this application but most of the time I pull the RV with the hitch. They are being returned. I lose $20.00 on shipping but at least it's not all lost.
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Curious about this... I've been using them for 2 years towing quite a bit and have no idea why I wouldn't want Timbrens with my wdh?
Explain?
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09-19-2017, 08:26 PM
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We typically do not recommend adding suspension enhancement when a weight distribution hitch is being used. A rear suspension enhancement system such as the Timbren springs and a weight distribution hitch reduce sag at the rear of a vehicle. In some situations, they can work against each other and hinder each others effectiveness.
This is on the web site for E Trailer under Q&A for Timbrens. After I read it I called them and they verified what it says and said that it could make a much harsher ride and they wouldn't help in my situation. They sent me a return label but I get to pay shipping back to them.
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09-20-2017, 12:55 PM
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With Timbrens: 2017 North Point 381 DLQS 16,500 GVWR
2015 F250 6.7 XLT
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09-20-2017, 01:00 PM
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I installed them on my rig and have been happy with them for years. Easy install and forget it! They are not in play except when towing my fiver.
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09-20-2017, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racinforthefinish
We typically do not recommend adding suspension enhancement when a weight distribution hitch is being used. A rear suspension enhancement system such as the Timbren springs and a weight distribution hitch reduce sag at the rear of a vehicle. In some situations, they can work against each other and hinder each others effectiveness.
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It could be that the Timbrens used with a WDH could result in a nose high situation that could induce sway. I think with heavy tongue trailers this may not be the case. My Eagle has 1400lbs on the tongue and I've had Timbrens on my F-250 now for 5 years with a WDH. I think it's important that even after the WDH is engaged, the Timbrens make solid contact with the axle bump stops. As in my case, it results in a slightly nose down situation. If they don't, thats gonna be one crappy ride.
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09-22-2017, 05:44 AM
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FYI, this is in the Fifth Wheel forum section. 
I can understand why changing rear suspension could affect the overall 'balance' of a WDH setup. One reason I never liked the WDH (and large bumper pull trailers).
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09-22-2017, 05:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vcbice
FYI, this is in the Fifth Wheel forum section.
I can understand why changing rear suspension could affect the overall 'balance' of a WDH setup. One reason I never liked the WDH (and large bumper pull trailers). |
Some people pull a fw and a bumper hitch with the same vehicle and might find this information helpful.
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