Timbrens a rough ride for you?

[rkymntsno]

X3. Yes, these are pics of my 5th hooked up, and unloaded. The ride was good both days coming home. I paid more attention to the ride this time, lol. I noticed where before with my Ram 1500 with airbags porpoised over some dips in the road, the timbrens or the 3500 suspension tamed the bouncing and limited up and down movement. I don't think I'm gonna try to remove them and see the difference. I had about 1 1/4" squat with the timbrens. I don't wanna see what they'd be without them. Also keep in mind the unloaded pics are with both diesel tanks full, about 92 gallons of diesel, the RDS aux tank itself, and a Bakflip hard cover on a longbed.

[rkymntsno]

Well I just got an email from Timbrens Customer Service. They've evaluated the info I sent them and are gonna send me two "softer" aeons they say will be a softer ride but still provide load support. When asked if they would cause more squat, they said possibly. So they're sending me out two new ones at no charge, and no need to send any back. Really? That's customer service. So I'm gonna install the new ones, check squat measurements, and check out the ride. Four bolts and they're on and off. Even I can do it, lol.

[SkyBound]

Great customer service from a great company. Hopefully you find the results you're looking for in one of the two.

[Big1]

Now that is awesome CS.

[Grumpymedic]

Originally Posted by rkymntsno

Well I just got an email from Timbrens Customer Service. They've evaluated the info I sent them and are gonna send me two "softer" aeons they say will be a softer ride but still provide load support. When asked if they would cause more squat, they said possibly. So they're sending me out two new ones at no charge, and no need to send any back. Really? That's customer service. So I'm gonna install the new ones, check squat measurements, and check out the ride. Four bolts and they're on and off. Even I can do it, lol.

I had the same thing occur on my Chevy 2500HD SRW. They sent me the softer version and the ride is substantially better. Hopefully you will have the same outcome.

[Dondevers]

Had the Tim’s for one trip and immediately went to air bags. Tim’s were one of the hardest ride that I had. Basically riding right on them. No adjustments. If it’s a short haul the Tim’s would be great. But for distance go with air.

[kblast523]

Originally Posted by diver6

I went with the SUMO spring cause I was afraid of the rough ride of the Timbrens and I love them. Same money I think.

I installed Sumos on the F150 to help 'unload' WDH. After installing, truck rode some stiffer unloaded, astoundingly well pulling 5800 lb TT with 625 lb tongue. Static height unloaded 33"f 34.75" r. Loaded with Sumos was 31.5" f, 33.5 r. CDRJ boys were well impressed with the ride when I traded it in on a RAM 1500. Have the 8650 Timbrens for the RAM, which I will install before outing with the TT. I chose them because of the ride in a 2018 Ram I was able to experience without any harshness when unloaded. Each vehicle has it's quirks. Timbrens=$196.00, Sumos=$219 on EBay.

[MPD56]

Folks: Good Information.

Ordered a 2020 Jayco MBQS355 and it is going to be made on May 21 and I'm suppose to pick it up at the dealer on May 29.and I'm pumped.

I have a 2013 F350 and 2008 Jayco 313RKS and it has a 2800 pound loaded pin weight and no suspension upgrades.

I planned to go to a CAT Scale on my way home. Not sure if I will need Timbrens.

If anyone with a 355 can confirm for me. I put my hitch in my truck today and the top of the hitch is 3" below the bed rails. To have over 6"s between the tralier and bed rail, I'm guessing from the bottom of the pin box to the trailer has to be 9"s at least. I thought when I was at the dealer it measured 12"s.


Thanks agian

[Big1]

Originally Posted by MPD56

Folks: Good Information.

Ordered a 2020 Jayco MBQS355 and it is going to be made on May 21 and I'm suppose to pick it up at the dealer on May 29.and I'm pumped.

I have a 2013 F350 and 2008 Jayco 313RKS and it has a 2800 pound loaded pin weight and no suspension upgrades.

I planned to go to a CAT Scale on my way home. Not sure if I will need Timbrens.

If anyone with a 355 can confirm for me. I put my hitch in my truck today and the top of the hitch is 3" below the bed rails. To have over 6"s between the tralier and bed rail, I'm guessing from the bottom of the pin box to the trailer has to be 9"s at least. I thought when I was at the dealer it measured 12"s.


Thanks agian

Congrats!

[rkymntsno]

Originally Posted by MPD56

Folks: Good Information.

Ordered a 2020 Jayco MBQS355 and it is going to be made on May 21 and I'm suppose to pick it up at the dealer on May 29.and I'm pumped.

I have a 2013 F350 and 2008 Jayco 313RKS and it has a 2800 pound loaded pin weight and no suspension upgrades.

I planned to go to a CAT Scale on my way home. Not sure if I will need Timbrens.

If anyone with a 355 can confirm for me. I put my hitch in my truck today and the top of the hitch is 3" below the bed rails. To have over 6"s between the tralier and bed rail, I'm guessing from the bottom of the pin box to the trailer has to be 9"s at least. I thought when I was at the dealer it measured 12"s.


Thanks agian

Congratulations on your purchase! The 355 is awesome. Factory specs say kingpin weight is around 2500 lbs. I saw my drive axle increase to about 3200 lbs when hitched up. I can't help with the rail clearance as I have the Pullrite 2600 Superlite. You didn't say if your TV is a dually or not. Mine's a Ram 3500 SRW and I knew I was gonna squat enough to go ahead and install the timbrens. Helps with more than just squat too.

[MPD56]

Thanks for the replies.

I tried replying on my phone yesterday and it didn't work out for me LOL.

I have a SRW. My truck is legal with up to 3500 pounds of pin weight, my trailer now is 3100 loaded with no problems. I have had 4000 pounds on my hitch moving a toy hauler for a freind, it didn't seem too bad.

My hitch is a Husky slider. In my last 2008 F350 the hitch was mounted over the rear axle, with my 2013 it is mounted 1.5 " ahead of the axle. Which puts some of the pin weight on the front tires.

So I'll have too wait to I put the unit on the scales to make my decision. I'm sort of I have to see it kind of guy. Plus being legal.

[rkymntsno]

Well I got the new aerons (I call them marshmallows, lol) timbrens by fed ex yesterday. Came pretty quick. These are the softer ones. So I'll put them on this weekend and take the 5er out to a truck wash and get it ready for our Pigeon Forge trip next month and see how the softer ones do. Gotta decide before the trip. I'll still take the ones I don't use as a back up since they said not to send them back, lol. I'll post an update later in the week hopefully.

[Lowmiler]

Originally Posted by rkymntsno

Will do. I probably should have waited and put the Timbrens on after picking up the 355 but I had time and went ahead and had them on when I picked it up so I don't know what it would've been like without them. I'm sure it would've squatted too much for my taste even though I have the 3500 srw. When I went to the CAT scales, drive axle had 3100 pounds on it and Jayco says my 355 has a pin weight of 2500 lbs.

My opinion is only do Timbrens after you’ve determined you need them.

I wouldn’t have assumed a 2018 1ton SRW with a 355 would need them.

[rkymntsno]

Originally Posted by Lowmiler

My opinion is only do Timbrens after you’ve determined you need them.

I wouldn’t have assumed a 2018 1ton SRW with a 355 would need them.

You wouldn't think. But I thought it was a happy medium between airbags and nothing. After seeing the factory bump stops, I damn sure didn't want to be in the truck if the bounce hit that loaded. It's not hurting anything by having them. It's stabilizing the load. Wait, I don't have to defend having them. I'm just sharing my experience with them to date.

[Lowmiler]

Originally Posted by rkymntsno

You wouldn't think. But I thought it was a happy medium between airbags and nothing. After seeing the factory bump stops, I damn sure didn't want to be in the truck if the bounce hit that loaded. It's not hurting anything by having them. It's stabilizing the load. Wait, I don't have to defend having them. I'm just sharing my experience with them to date.

I hear yah, but that’s the thing: hitting the bump stop is a function of the load divided by the springs pack and shocks.

If the springs and shocks aren’t up to the task, you’ll hit that ugly bump stop.

But if they are, you won’t.

But if you close the gap with the Timbrens, suddenly you’re not in free air.


On my last truck, it wasn’t a function of static sag that got me to add Timbrens, there wasn’t any.

What got me to add them was the behavior on big dips, like the expansion joints on the highway. The truck would compress and rebound too much, even with new Bilsteins. The ride was not pretty.

Timbrens reduced the compression gap, which reduced the rebound, which kept the ride controlled.

If the compression/rebound behavior wasn’t bad, I wouldn’t have added Timbrens. But I wouldn’t have known how it would behave until I drove the truck fully loaded.

Try putting the stock bump stops back on. On a 2018 with the pin weight of a 355, I think you’ll be better off.

[MPD56]

Thanks
Keep us updated.

I'm going to wait after my first tow.

[TCNashville]

Timbrens MUST engage the bumpstop under load and if they don't, watch out because you're in for a rough ride. Had them on my '12 F-250 and loved them.

[rkymntsno]

Here's the new softer timbrens aeron. I have not traveled with them yet to test the ride yet. That's coming up.

[Dascro]

Looks good. Thanks for sharing. Just out of curiosity, what is the load rating of the new ones they sent you?

[rkymntsno]

Originally Posted by Dascro

Looks good. Thanks for sharing. Just out of curiosity, what is the load rating of the new ones they sent you?

Funny you should ask. I don't know, lol. The first ones they sent was 8600 lbs. I should know what these are rated. I'll find out and post then. I told them what my drive axle was under load with king pin. They said these were a softer compound for better ride and they've had good results from customers.