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Old 09-04-2017, 09:00 AM   #1
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Unhappy Tires - Need Help Bad

Hello all,
I am not new to pulling my camper but because of the trouble I am having with my tires, I am feeling very ignorant and frustrated right now. Any help that you can give me will be greatly appreciated! Here is the story:

I have a 2013 Eagle 30.5 BHLT with 15" wheels. We are pretty set on our camping routine. We pull it round trip 260 miles from Birmingham to Auburn 7 times in the fall. We make a 100 mile trip on New Years. We usually take it somewhere for Spring Break (+/- 300 miles) and then make a 200 mile trip to the lake for Memorial Day. During the times it is sitting I put covers on the tires. We purchased the unit in the Fall of 2012 and because of the blowout I had yesterday, I am about to purchase my 8th tire (all blow outs). I have had to replace both fender skirts ($140.00 each) because of 2 blowouts. I always check my pressure before leaving. I have tried running 5 psi under recommend cold max. I have tried running the max pressure and it doesn't matter. When the factory tires started blowing after 2 years I went ahead and replaced them all with the E rated "Blow Max". The 4th blew yesterday. It was manufactured in the 4th week of 2015. Speed note - since I had my other blowouts cruising between 70-75 I made it a point to never go above 70 mph yesterday and probably averaged around 60. I currently have 3 (65 psi D rated?) Schooners on the camper. All the current Schooners were manufactured in 2016. And it often seems like the blowouts happen on the return trip??
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Should I move up to ta 16" wheel? Can a good TPMS help me? If so how (I have no problems knowing I have a blow out)? What is a good tire? What is a good rating?

I have tried reading other posts on this forum and by the looks of it, there is a lot of information that I am missing. Again - felling pretty ignorant and dejected right now. Thank you for any help you can provide.

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Old 09-04-2017, 11:34 AM   #2
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I would definitely move up to 16" tires and wheels. Are the blowouts on the same side every time? Have you had your axles checked out?
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:04 PM   #3
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Those tires are rated for 65MPH. Could it be your consistent 70+ speed is causing excessive wear and/or heat leading to the blowouts?

How's your alignment?

My trailer is 2 years old and I already know my alignment is out of whack based on tire wear patterns. I'm careful to stay under 65 most of the time, though, because I fear a blowout. I will be replacing all 4 tires before next season, as well as getting an alignment done.
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The blowouts have been all over. I have not had the Axles checked but am wonder now if that is a cause?
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I am thinking that I need to move up to a 16" wheel with a min weight rating of 3,300 lbs. My logic: GVWR is just over 11.7k lbs. If I round that up to 12k I am looking at 6k per axle. If I use a 110% safety factor it gives me 3,300 lbs. I am guessing that there are only a few E rated tires with this spec and no D rated tires? Does this make sense?
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I just replaced my 225-75-15 Towmax STRs with Goodyear Endurance load range E. Two of the Towmax tires had broken belts, thankfully I noticed it before our most recent trip. My trailer is not as heavy as yours but look into the Endurance tires. They do not squat at all, much stronger sidewalls, big difference in towing.
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I've always used the rule that if I had a blowout both tires on that side need replacing, because you just overloaded the other.


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I'm very paranoid when it comes to tires.
I have ran 16" Michelin XPS Ribs and Bridgestone Duravis R250s. Both worked great but cost a lot.
I would probably go to 16s and go with the new Endurance tires. Make sure you have the clearance for the new set. Keep a close watch on the tire wear.

I never go without a TPMS. I'm using the TST 507.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:27 PM   #9
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I can second the Bridgestone Duravis R250's. I have them on one of my heavy flatbed trailers and they have held up great. They will age themselves out before they wear out.
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Here are some things I would check first.

Rim ratings for pressure? Based on this can you go up a rating?

While your camper is on a level surface measure from the front corner to the front of each respective tire. Then repeat from the rear to the rear most tire. You should have within a 1/4" the same measurements on all 4 points. Also the space between each tire will tell you if your alignment is out. It's crude, but can tell you a lot.

Next I would suggest a loaded trip to the Cat scales to see if one side is heavier than the other?

I have had very good luck with my Maxxis brand tires and they have a great service record.
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My vote would be to go to 16" wheels, and Duravis 250's. I ran them (245-75) on my last Cedar Creek, and no more worries while towing anywhere.

To check alignment you measure from the king pin, by using a plumb bob, and marking the point, then measure from that point to each end of the front axle.
The rear axle can be checked from the front axle.
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With the TPMS what is the range for set points? What is the set points for temperature?
I.e. if I have a 90PSI tire, do I set the alarm pressure at 100? Same for temp? Thank you so much for you help?
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My E's start at 80 cold and can go upwards of 93-94PSI on a real hot day or extensive braking in traffic conditions, sunny vs shade side.

It's usually the low pressure you want to watch and high temps which can tell you a lot.

I set my temps for 110 on the high and pressure for 73 PSI on the low side.

It's a great tool to tell you what is going on from tire to tire.

Another tool you could consider is a laser thermometer which can give you hub, brakes and rim temps to confirm what your seeing. $15.00 tool that is priceless IMHO.

I had a brake hang up once and one tire was 15 degrees higher than the others indicating me to an issue.
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When we had a trailer, after tire issues, we went from the ST tires that came on it to Michelin LT load range E tires. Never had another issue with the Light Truck tires on it.
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Tire Issues

We had an 06 triple axle H.R. toy hauler 15" tires.Big problem with blow outs.Our 16 Eagle weighs 10K dry, has 16" tires so far no problems!We started switching tires after 3 years no matter how they look!Think its cheaper than deductibles after blow outs.
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We do truck tires to, they also are speed rated!
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Thank you very much 3's. this is helpful information that I haven't seen elsewhere.
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Has anyone had experience with Goodyear Marathon Tires?
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Has anyone had experience with Goodyear Marathon Tires?
Stay away from Marathon's. Far, Far Away. Don't even think about them.

The Endurance is the only Goodyear tire to consider. If you want to spend the money go Michelin or Bridgestone.

If it was me I would go up to 16's and a E range Endurance. In the long run it will give you more options on tires.
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Marathons are GY from China. Endurance are currently the only US manufactured trailer tire in the market that I know of.

They are only in their first year of service, so no one really has long experience with them yet.
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