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Old 03-09-2016, 05:38 PM   #11
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Wow, thanks for all the advice!
For some more information on our plans...(keep in mind it's still a plan & can be adjusted as needed)

5th wheel - with front bunks maybe 1-2 years old

Truck - leaning towards 3/4 ton 6.7 diesel Ford probably unless I find an overwhelming response to get a Chevy or Dodge.

Camping - we're looking at the Thousand Trails membership thing where we stay in the parks for maximum 3 weeks at a time and then move on to our next Thousand Trails park. (So we'll basically be moving every 3 weeks)

During the trip of 12-24 months we want to visit as many National Parks as possible and check out the US. The wife & I have been all over the world but never looked around the US that much! So since we homeschool our 6 year old daughter. We think it's a good time to check out our options.

Thanks again to everyone.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:26 PM   #12
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Truck - leaning towards 3/4 ton 6.7 diesel Ford probably unless I find an overwhelming response to get a Chevy or Dodge.


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Old 03-09-2016, 09:27 PM   #13
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GVWR is 9,950lbs & a dry hitch weight of 1,545lbs
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Your question is difficult to answer. If you plan to travel on flat terrain and full time and stay in one location for months at a time, you could probably get by with a 1/2 ton. However, if you plan on traveling in mountainous terrain, a 3/4 ton will serve you better and not wear out the power plant as quickly. Now, what if your 1 to 2 years of full timing turns into 10 or 12 years? In that case a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel would be best cuz you will probably go to a bigger rv at some point. How's that for confusion?
With a DRY pin weight of 1545lbs, plus the 5ver hitch, plus the additional pin weight once the 5ver is loaded, the ONLY 150/1500 that may possibly be just adequate is the F150 with the max tow AND HD PAYLOAD package. Even the GM Twins with the Max Tow have maybe 1900lbs payload. He would be just about maxed, if not over even before all of the family is in the cab and any additional items are in the bed.

This 5ver is minimum 2500 territory depending on what the available payload is for that particular truck.

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Wow, thanks for all the advice!
For some more information on our plans...(keep in mind it's still a plan & can be adjusted as needed)

5th wheel - with front bunks maybe 1-2 years old

Truck - leaning towards 3/4 ton 6.7 diesel Ford probably unless I find an overwhelming response to get a Chevy or Dodge.

Camping - we're looking at the Thousand Trails membership thing where we stay in the parks for maximum 3 weeks at a time and then move on to our next Thousand Trails park. (So we'll basically be moving every 3 weeks)

During the trip of 12-24 months we want to visit as many National Parks as possible and check out the US. The wife & I have been all over the world but never looked around the US that much! So since we homeschool our 6 year old daughter. We think it's a good time to check out our options.

Thanks again to everyone.
JRouch,

With the traveling you plan on doing, I completely understand and agree the diesel is probably the best way to go. Gas motor would work, but the diesel will laugh at only towing almost 10k lbs!!!

As mentioned, the issue with even a 2500/250 diesel can be the payload when towing a 5ver. Depending on which 5ver hitch you go with, you are probably looking at around 2k lbs pin weight (give or take) with the hitch (chances are a little more). Look in the drivers door jamb of each truck you look at for a yellow sticker, will state "All passengers and cargo not to exceed XXXXlbs". Chances are most of the 250/2500 diesels will be at most 2500lbs. For comparison, our '13 CHEVY (subliminal!!!) 2500HD has about 2750lbs of payload with the 6.0 gas motor (9500lb gvwr for gas motored GM 2500HD trucks). A friend had an '11 or '12 with the diesel and only had about 2200lbs payload with about the same options, and the GM diesels have a 10k lb gvwr.

Considering you are planning on full timing, look for the 350/3500 (GM) SRW diesel for the extra payload as mentioned.

Good luck finding the right truck (GM) and 5ver!!!

ps: Hopefully the subliminal msg's have helped!!! Lol

pps: Honestly, any of the Big 3 diesel trucks will more than do the job. Go test drive all 3 and see which one is the right fit for you and your family!!!
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Well, I haven't towed my new 5er yet, but as my signature notes below, I think you can tell which way I went for my new TV ;-)

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3/4 ton minimum. Pin weight could easily be 2000 lbs fully loaded. Plus hitch which can get pretty heavy. Plus passengers...

I'm not a super duty basher, but make sure you drive a chevy and Ram before you buy a ford. The 3/4 ton Chevy and Ram have a better ride than Ford. The F250 I drove rode just as rough as the 1 ton trucks.

If you go the diesel route, you pry better look at the 1 ton anyway. I looked at three F250's with the diesel and they all had a payload capacity of 2,000lbs. A Chevy gasser crew cab will pry have closer to 3,300lbs payload.

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3/4 ton minimum. Pin weight could easily be 2000 lbs fully loaded. Plus hitch which can get pretty heavy. Plus passengers...

If you go the diesel route, you pry better look at the 1 ton anyway. I looked at three F250's with the diesel and they all had a payload capacity of 2,000lbs. A Chevy gasser crew cab will pry have closer to 3,300lbs payload.

Good luck!
While I haven't shopped the new body GM 2500HD Twins, not sure a decent optioned crew cab (LT/ SLE) would have that much more payload than the last gen (11-14) trucks. May be close to that if 2wd, but our 4X4 is 275Xlbs, LT with most of the "needed" options without being overpriced and should have been a LTZ. No buckets, leather, nav radio (do have the usb radio), etc.

If you referred to the 3500HD then it probably has around that for payload (+/- a little).
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As mentioned if you are going diesel get a 1 ton. You are full timing and will pack accordingly. This means more stuff is coming along and you don't have the option of leaving things at home.
Unless you are getting a regular cab any diesel 3/4 ton payload will be around 2000lbs maybe up to 2500lbs if you get vinyl flooring and crank windows......ie no options.

I have a 2015 F250 gas XLT (not optioned out) and I have 2700lbs of payload. The diesel option takes at least 500lbs off that number usually a bit more.

If I were to do it again I would go straight to a one ton regardless. It is essentially an identical truck with more capability for marginally more cost.

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With a DRY pin weight of 1545lbs, plus the 5ver hitch, plus the additional pin weight once the 5ver is loaded, the ONLY 150/1500 that may possibly be just adequate is the F150 with the max tow AND HD PAYLOAD package. Even the GM Twins with the Max Tow have maybe 1900lbs payload. He would be just about maxed, if not over even before all of the family is in the cab and any additional items are in the bed.

This 5ver is minimum 2500 territory depending on what the available payload is for that particular truck.
I'm still one of those guys who thinks you can never have too much towing capacity. However, the specs on the newer 1/2 ton trucks have impressed me and I would have never said that even 5 years ago (after all, I'm towing the same type rig with a 2500 Duramax). If the OP would not need a truck for mountainous terrain and only towing to locations for long periods of time (like a lot of full timers), I kinda still stand by my original thought that a 1/2 ton would be adequate under those circumstances. See attached (not interested in lengthy discussions on this either, so this is my last post on this thread ).
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