2008 Seneca 35HD generator runs, no

[lonestarrpm]

No AC power with generator

Was running fine last night.
Turned the ACs to a higher temp
Ran generator all day.

Came back to rig, no power.

Checked AC switch at generator
Checked and toggled all breakers in master.

Turned Gen on and off multiple times.

Tried with and without ACs on, did not matter.

Tried with and without engine running.

No codes.

Running out of ideas...

[EA37TS]

Haven't pulled the cover on the current generator but on my prior coach the generator had a breaker right next to the start switch on the generator itself. If that breaker was tripped the generator would run but would not output any power. You might check to see if your generator has a similar breaker.

Note to self, check the configuration of the current coach's generator for breaker and start switch.

[lonestarrpm]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

Haven't pulled the cover on the current generator but on my prior coach the generator had a breaker right next to the start switch on the generator itself. If that breaker was tripped the generator would run but would not output any power. You might check to see if your generator has a similar breaker.

Note to self, check the configuration of the current coach's generator for breaker and start switch.

Mind has one
I’ve cycled it multiple times with no change in behavior

Mike

[Grumpy]

Could be a bad transfer switch. There was a recall on those in the 08's years ago. Are you the original owner?

[mini4mw]

Do you have a voltage meter at the master switch so you can tell power goes up when gen on? I have one right before the master switch to monitor the batteries and when I'm plugged into shore or the gen is on it goes from 12.x to 13-14.x V. Perhaps something to check battery V to see if they are draining?

That tell you if the gen is passing power to the coach infrastructure and isolate if the coach is the issue or the gen.

[lonestarrpm]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Could be a bad transfer switch. There was a recall on those in the 08's years ago. Are you the original owner?

Where do I find that yo test?

I am not the original owner

Mike

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by lonestarrpm

Where do I find that yo test?

I am not the original owner

Mike

It's under the large wardrobe drawers. You need to pull them out to access it. You can easily take the cover off to see if you have voltage coming in. If not it's the geny, if yes it's the switch.

[lonestarrpm]

Found my problem

Now I just need to figure out what to do and what wiring needs to be repaired/replaced.

Mike

[Jeffur]

Wow - that’s bad.

[Grumpy]

That's what it was recalled for. All you can do is buy a new one. IOTA is no longer making that switch. Progressive Dynamics has one on AMAZON and you need one with the "Sense Option" for the gen auto start.

[lonestarrpm]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

That's what it was recalled for. All you can do is buy a new one. IOTA is no longer making that switch. Progressive Dynamics has one on AMAZON and you need one with the "Sense Option" for the gen auto start.

If it Was under recall
Do I have any leverage with Jayco?

Mike

[Grumpy]

Doubtful since you're the 2nd owner and the recall was in 2012/13.

[crockettlarry]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Doubtful since you're the 2nd owner and the recall was in 2012/13.

Since recalls typically have to do with safety issues, I don't think they expire or lose their urgency, do they?

[Carjunkie54]

Recalls do not expire, but they are generally only enforced for a resonable period of time.
You should check the NHTSA website for exact details concerning what they determine resonable.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by crockettlarry

Since recalls typically have to do with safety issues, I don't think they expire or lose their urgency, do they?

Originally Posted by Carjunkie54

Recalls do not expire, but they are generally only enforced for a resonable period of time.
You should check the NHTSA website for exact details concerning what they determine resonable.

It was a JAYCO voluntary recall at the time, not a NHTSA recall if I remember correctly. Other RV manufacturers didn't recall them until several years later.

[crockettlarry]

July 23, 2012
NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 12V347000
Transfer Switch
An improper electrical connection at the buss bar could lead to overheating and melting of the transfer switch, increasing the risk of a fire, injury or death.

NHTSA Campaign Number: 12V347000

Manufacturer JAYCO, INC.

Components ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Potential Number of Units Affected 908

Summary

Jayco is recalling certain model year 2007 Greyhawk Class C motorhomes; model year 2008 and 2010 Seneca Class C motorhomes; model year 2009 and 2011 Eagle Fifth-wheel; 2010 Recon fifth-wheel; and model year 2008-2010 Designer fifth wheel vehicles manufactured from June 15, 2006, through August 13, 2010 for an improper electrical connection at the buss bar on the Iota-brand transfer switches installed in the vehicles.

Remedy

Jayco will notify owners, and dealers will replace the transfer switch, free of charge. The safety recall began on August 31, 2012. Owners may contact Jayco at 1-800-283-8267.

Notes

Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by crockettlarry

July 23, 2012
NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 12V347000
Transfer Switch
An improper electrical connection at the buss bar could lead to overheating and melting of the transfer switch, increasing the risk of a fire, injury or death.

NHTSA Campaign Number: 12V347000

Manufacturer JAYCO, INC.

Components ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Potential Number of Units Affected 908

Summary

Jayco is recalling certain model year 2007 Greyhawk Class C motorhomes; model year 2008 and 2010 Seneca Class C motorhomes; model year 2009 and 2011 Eagle Fifth-wheel; 2010 Recon fifth-wheel; and model year 2008-2010 Designer fifth wheel vehicles manufactured from June 15, 2006, through August 13, 2010 for an improper electrical connection at the buss bar on the Iota-brand transfer switches installed in the vehicles.

Remedy

Jayco will notify owners, and dealers will replace the transfer switch, free of charge. The safety recall began on August 31, 2012. Owners may contact Jayco at 1-800-283-8267.

Notes

Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to https://www.safercar.gov.

It was still voluntary like MONACO and KEYSTONE. That's what the "V" stands for.

Accordingly, Monaco and Keystone manufactured have initiated a voluntary recall as listed on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration web site. This is under campaign numbers 12V060000 and 11V577000.

[crockettlarry]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

It was still voluntary like MONACO and KEYSTONE. That's what the "V" stands for.

Accordingly, Monaco and Keystone manufactured have initiated a voluntary recall as listed on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration web site. This is under campaign numbers 12V060000 and 11V577000.

Roger. I was just posting it for information.

I'm betting Jayco will replace it. Loss of life and high-dollar property loss is possible.

[lonestarrpm]

I’m replacing the iota with the PD52DCSD

What was the two wires in the IOTA that connected to a pcboard via crimped terminal
Connector?

I can’t seem to find any info
Nor any similar connection on the Progressive Dynamics box

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by lonestarrpm

I’m replacing the iota with the PD52DCSD

What was the two wires in the IOTA that connected to a pcboard via crimped terminal
Connector?

I can’t seem to find any info
Nor any similar connection on the Progressive Dynamics box

Those are probably the auto start control wires. If I remember correctly there is an add on module that needs to purchased for the Progressive. This is from their web-site.

AC Detect option available for auto generator start compatibility.