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Old 07-27-2022, 01:29 PM   #21
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Okay guys I'm a millennial kinda almost 40. You have multiple different things going on here. #1 cable you plug into your rv from the park assuming you have used it before and you know it works. Cable will get you the basic channels that are available though the park (no wifi or internet connection at all. #2 if you have the booster it will boost "over the air tv channels" has nothing to do with wifi or cable TV. Some rvs have 2 outlets in the wet bay 1 is for cable and 1 is for satellite connection. If you plug cable into the wrong outlet it won't work. #3 to use fire TV built in to a smart TV or using a fire stick you will need an internet connection. As in wifi. Some newer rvs offer a wifi range extender but they require the purchase of additional components. Your rv my have the outside antenna for the wifi booster by my not have the inside components. Most rv parks do not offer wifi good enough to use fire TV. You my have a good signal but not fast enough download speeds. Most rv parks offer wifi that is around 1mbps download that is adequate for most small websites, check email that's about it. For fire TV you will need to have I believe the minimum is 3mbps download speed but 5 to 10 is recommended. So again fire TV requires internet access you will not get this from the cable connection at an rv park. Likely you will need to connect your TV or fire stick to the parks wifi if it's fast enough for streaming. If not you won't be able to use the fire TV. Fire TV also requires a subscription or again it will not be available. So in recap the cable provides tv channels. You need wifi to use fire tv. Lastly you will need to have a fire stick or smart tv for each tv in the rv. 1 will only provide the service to 1 tv. You can move the fire stick from 1 tv to another no problem but again the wifi has to he fast enough to work. I have used fire tv with a 3mbpd speed and it was definitely not a pleasant watching experience it will pause every so often and buffer. And the voices will never be on with the lips movement. We got Starlink satellite internet a few months ago and Holly cow it's 1000% better. If watching TV and surfing the web is important to you and you want to travel I highly recommended Starlink. It's expensive to buy all the equipment but the service is reasonable cost. As far as I'm aware it works most anywhere.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:43 PM   #22
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I've had DirecTV since 2002, but I let the national networks go, along with the receiver I used to use, when I thought I was done RVing. Since I can't get any receiver other than a Genie (and I wanted it to stay at home to record everything while away) anymore, I was at a loss as to what to do.

I thought maybe Dish, since they are mobile friendly, but they've dropped all, or most, of the regional sports networks.

So, just yesterday, sitting in a park with terrible cable and zero OTA stations I was watching a ballgame via the internet; they let me watch with my DirecTV login. I have a grandfathered AT&T unlimited hotspot for $20 per month that here gets 30Mbps and elsewhere even more. I had an epiphany: Go with DirecTV stream! Everything, including my spot-beamed locals, available from anywhere in the country (probably the world) as long as there's internet. Needs 8Mbps for highest quality, but they back down the quality if that is not available. The kicker is that it is going to cost just over half what my DTV package cost! I chose to order a couple of their boxes, but those aren't necessary to watch. They will be delivered before I get home on Friday.

Now to go through the process of cancelling the satellite version.
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Old 07-27-2022, 01:46 PM   #23
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I've thought about getting Starlink; just have to wait to see if I experience problems with my DirecTV stream. I'm an original mobile satellite internet user, and I do mean original, meaning from beta. Ran a website for users of the Datastorm for 20 years, but shut it down at the most recent domain expiration because almost nobody uses that system anymore.
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:11 PM   #24
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This issues I had with direct TV was they cap your data. And it's honestly expensive for what you get. I have a Verizon older plan with bonus data I have 200 gigs for $60 a month. Never leaving this plan. Today's truly unlimited plans are a joke. And ATT actually has some that are not bad but ATT is by far the slowest network I've used. I have Verizon, my work provides me with sprint (now Tmobile) and my truck has onstar with unlimited data from att. Verizon had the best overall coverage and reasonable speeds, t-mobile is the fastest when you have service. And Att is the most affordable but not good coverage or speed. I'm out west. With Starlink I have over 100mbps almost all the time almost anywhere I go. My summer rv spot (as a full-timer) is in northeast Oregon and Starlink is truly the only game in town with over 25mbps downloads. My last speed test here put Starlink @ 246mbps, Verizon at 33mbps, att at 1.6mbps and t-mobile at nothing (no service). My Starlink is $110 if I'm not traveling and $135 when on the go. Verizon is $65 with taxes, Att is $25 though onstar. And t-mobile is free to me but I think about $45 or $50 to my employer. So yes Starlink is expensive but it's 8 times fast then the next best and less then twice the cost.
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:13 PM   #25
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I have also looked into the Starlink service, but unless I was full time RV'ing I would not buy it. We just completed a couple month 10k mile, 18 state trip. Through all the travels which including multiple days inside national parks etc. we only had two instances where my cellular system didn't match or beat what most are currently getting on the RV Starlink. In one of the two cases, Ouray CO, I am not sure that Starlink would work due to the narrowness of the valley that the city sits in. The second case where it absolutely would have worked better was in Mesa Verde NP, this park is a cellular black hole!

But from parks in AZ, UT, on up through to Glacier NP we had excellent service. Along with all the stays in other states. Most of my bandwidth testing was in the 40-60mbps range for downs and between 11-80mbps for uploads. I did these tests on a Insty Connect 5G system and with ATT, T-Mobile and Visible (Verizon). BTW T-Mobile rocked it most of the time. For the $60 total that I spend each month between the three for service I can't stomach the $135 for Starlink. Especially knowing that it wouldn't have worked in half of the locations due to trees, and 99% of the time my cell service was equal to or better than what most are reporting getting when it does work.

I am still in the working class, so I needed the service to work while traveling. We also exclusively stream TV and we never had any issues even in Glacier Fish Creek campground.
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:20 PM   #26
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This issues I had with direct TV
I assume you meant Hughes/Direcway, although at one time they and DirecTV were under the same ownership.

I was never able to go mobile until DirecPC (the original name for Hughes/Direcway) came along. Capped didn't matter, although back then they didn't cap, they were just slow. At that time, cellular data simply did not yet exist. RV Park internet meant you took your modem into the office or laundry room, plugged into a phone jack, and used the AOL 800 number (or similar) on dialup.

Direcway was freedom. I later had commercial satellite service using iDirect, so speed wasn't a problem. When Motosat went out of business I wasn't willing to pay the cost they had been footing for me, so I gave up satellite. No question that Starlink is the goto option now if you need internet almost everywhere.
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:32 PM   #27
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I just came back from a trip to Olympic NP and that is the first place I have found that att actually beat Verizon in network (on the wast coast) Att is definitely better on the east coast. Like I said t-mobile is by far the best of the "big 3" When you actually get service. In the northwest t-mobile is more miss then hit.. but I can tell you the people that are signing up for the "rv" Starlink are getting screwed. If you set your Starlink up for a home address you will get priority speeds at that address. The priority speeds are well over 100mbps almost all the time. If you sign up for the "rv" Starlink you pay $20 a month more and NEVER get priority speeds. Now with the normal Starlink you establish an address for it and at that address you get priority. You can turn on and off the mobile use option in the app when it's on you pay $20 more and when you turn it off your bill drops $20. So when at "home" you get priority speeds on the go you get whatever bandwidth isn't in use so it could be rather slow at popular areas. I have been to 48 states including Alaska and have never found a place I couldn't get Starlink. Yes there were a few that I lost service for an hour or 2 in the middle of the night. If you look at your dish in most of north America it's almost pointed straight up most of the time. So large canyons have less of an effect then you might think. In northeast Oregon mine is straight up except for a few hours of the day it's tilted to the north slightly. If you have an older cell plan with really true unlimited data keep it forsure. Definitely most affordable way to get data. Most people don't have true unlimited data and you really can't get them anymore. That said sites and movies are not getting smaller on data they are getting bigger. It's pretty vital to have a non capped data package of you plan st stream
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Old 07-27-2022, 02:32 PM   #28
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Back to the original question of how to get cable at campground... I, too, had this problem (in our 2020 Seneca) and tried every imaginable suggestion from all sorts of RV forums. pconroy hits it on the head when he says "a direct connection eliminates the chance of a dead or disconnected wire in the wall". I now run the cable from cg box thru the driver's side window and connect directly to the cable port on the back of my tv whenever I want cable tv. Not pretty, but it works and saves a lot of aggrevation in trying to figure out where between the cable port in the utility closet and the back of the tv a wire might/must be dead or disconnected.
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Old 07-27-2022, 03:00 PM   #29
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You guys derail much

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You guys derail much

Hey, thread drift is alive and well!
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Old 07-27-2022, 03:51 PM   #31
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2022 Seneca, how to get cable tv at campground on fire tv or the others sets?
We have 2 Fire TV units (One on Each TV) We have internet, so this the best way to get TV.

Yes, you can connect to the Input on the side of the TV to the campground, just make sure you turn off the Antenna Amplifier (Green Light) Note: This is NOT a signal booster, but, a signal amp installed into the antenna on the roof. We have a WE Boost, which is a Signal Booster for the cell phone service, which is where we get our internet. This works great so far for us... as they say, your mileage may vary...... Happy Camping!
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2022 Seneca, how to get cable tv at campground on fire tv or the others sets?
Loads of ways anymore to do this, with all sorts of price ranges and modifications to ones recreational vehicle.

If you’re connecting to a campgrounds coax, your A/V system may or may not allow that to be tied to your firestick and controlled with firestick remote. Do a channel search as this oftentimes leads to more discovery than the cable guide.

I don’t use a cable provider service per se. I do subscribe directly to the channels I watch (Paramount, Discovery, Disney etc). Then I can use the Firestick for all of my apps and local channels.

Here is what I have done as most of my camping is where I hardly have cellular service (rarely do I plug into a campground coax or use their WiFi):

I purchased a Wilson Electronics DAS system to capture far away “weak” cellular networks by aiming an antenna with an app at cell towers (the antenna is on a 25’ telescoping pole mounted to rear number and ladder). This weak signal goes through a new cable to a module that then sends an amplified signal to a transmitting antenna inside your RV (also in a new cable).
Took me 2.5 hours to install and dial it up.

I then use my Verizon jet pack to convert that amplified signal into WiFi, which I then connect my Firestick and WiFi devices to. This all can be done securely by adding a VPN and voila...
This has been more stable and cost effective than boondocking with Starlink. For now at least.

https://www.weboost.com/products/destination-rv

There are systems that allow you to have a better signal while driving but the antenna on the destination RV package is the same we use in commercial applications and for that reason I linked it.
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"a direct connection eliminates the chance of a dead or disconnected wire in the wall".

Yeah - there have been a few years of "Can't get Cable Channels" posts here. A majority of them have come back with a followup about wires in the walls not connected.


And now back to a discussion of streaming and satellite services.
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Our RV came with "dumb TV's". Our son bought us an Apple Fire stick. He loaded all his apps for Paramount, Apple Discovery, etc. Just plug it in the USB, set the correct input for the dumb tv, and watch what you want. For service we either use campground WI Fi or hotspot off our phone service which has unlimited data. I replaced the bedroom dumb tv with a smart TV from Walmart for $125. We just do the same thing there but direct in the TV rather than the stick. Admittedly we don't watch a lot of TV so if we have service issues we pick up a book! The other post was spot on however about searching for channels EVERY time you change locations. Once out in Wyo we had no reception for anything while boondocking, I channel surfed the airwaves and we actually got a few over the air channels!!!
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Still no cable, have tried solutions from comments. Tks

Mine was wired incorrectly behind the booster plate. Common problem I’m told. You have to turn off the Antenna boost and scan on the fire tv
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So just a thought here we are talking a firestick or fire TV if fire stick you need WIFI connection
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So just a thought here we are talking a firestick or fire TV if fire stick you need WIFI connection
My 2022 37K came with a FIreTV. The cables behind the Wi-Fi and antenna booster were crossed. Once fixed, disable antenna boost via the push button, and scan for park cable coming in through cable in wet bay.

Fire TV or Fire Stick need internet, usually Wi-Fi, but at HHI I have internet through park cable with my own router.

Park cable, can be scanned on FireTv just like over air through antenna can.

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