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12-23-2021, 11:21 AM
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What happened to the GCWR on the Seneca?
I was browsing the Jayco specifications and ran across a disappointing change...
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12-23-2021, 11:38 AM
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Gotta be a misprint, I regularly see things wrong on the webpage and brochures.
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12-23-2021, 12:31 PM
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I thought so too... Until I saw that the specs show they are using a smaller powerplant.
https://www.jayco.com/rvs/class-c-mo...22-seneca/37m/
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12-23-2021, 12:38 PM
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Ah... and I found the new motor brocure... ISB for RV Motorhomes.
https://www.rvtechlibrary.com/engine/ISB300_specs.pdf
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12-23-2021, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SloPoke
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But the brochure sheet still shows 41,000 and the 360hp.
DRIVING
Freightliner® S2RV chassis
GVWR- 29,000 lb.
GCWR- 41,000 lb.
Cummins® ISB 6.7L 360 HP diesel engine with
800 ft.-lb. torque
Allison® 3000 MH automatic transmission
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12-23-2021, 01:16 PM
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I looked up that ISB-300 and Cummins says it’s for Euro truck and bus. The Freightliner Custom Chassis page for the S2RV chassis still shows the 6.7 360 hp. If they do change it, it’s a huge mistake IMO
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12-23-2021, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustynuts
I looked up that ISB-300 and Cummins says it’s for Euro truck and bus. The Freightliner Custom Chassis page for the S2RV chassis still shows the 6.7 360 hp. If they do change it, it’s a huge mistake IMO
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Take a peek at this thread...
https://www.irv2.com/forums/f123/cum...-149605-2.html
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12-23-2021, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
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Most of that thread is about the 5.9 - 300hp Cummins but one person chimes in about a 6.7 - 300hp. I don’t know, still guessing it’s a misprint.
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12-23-2021, 06:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustynuts
Most of that thread is about the 5.9 - 300hp Cummins but one person chimes in about a 6.7 - 300hp. I don’t know, still guessing it’s a misprint.
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I also posted some Marketing from Cummins... and yes they have the 6.7 300 in inventory. My buddy looked it up for me in the inventory of available powerplants to purchase. He does not get to see the available inventory available...
Maybe there is a shortage of the 360 and Jayco can get the 300 pretty cheap?
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12-23-2021, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SloPoke
Maybe there is a shortage of the 360 and Jayco can get the 300 pretty cheap?
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This may be the reason if the info is correct. They already announced that the RB and TS models are not currently being built due to a chassis shortage.
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12-23-2021, 08:42 PM
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I picked up a 2022 37M one month ago today in Texas and it has the 360/800 so if it is a change, it would have to be a mid season change and those with them on order will sure be disappointed.
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12-23-2021, 09:01 PM
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Just looked at the features page (link below) and it still shows the 360/800 motor but when you go to price it out it is different. Price has not changed since I first priced one out the first week of October and placed an order so who knows what is happening.
https://www.jayco.com/rvs/class-c-mo...22-seneca/37m/
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12-24-2021, 02:41 PM
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It has got to be a mistake, the Entegra website posts the 6.7L. My 2022 37M just arrived at the dealership, I am emailing them now.
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12-24-2021, 05:24 PM
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I have not found any 2022's online with the 300 and everyone of the Facebook forum that has a 2022 has the 6.7 360/800. You guys had me freaked out for a minute!
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12-25-2021, 02:20 AM
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Took delivery of my 2022 Entegra Accolade 37L on Monday 20 December. It has the 6.7 360/800
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12-25-2021, 10:29 AM
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My 2022 37K also has the ISB 6.7L 360 800 engine.
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12-25-2021, 12:57 PM
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360/800. 
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12-29-2021, 08:06 PM
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Cummins ISB-300
That statement you see in the brochure does not indicate 300 hp
Just a reference to motor and chassis
If you keep going to find chassis specifications it says 6.7 litre 360 hp Cummins powertrain waterever
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03-22-2023, 07:31 PM
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Bumping this back up as the brochure the dealer gave me on the 37K has a GVWR of 29,000 and a GCVWR of 41,000. My placard in the door shows the gross combined at 43,000. Who is right and what are you seeing?
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03-22-2023, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aqharoper
Bumping this back up as the brochure the dealer gave me on the 37K has a GVWR of 29,000 and a GCVWR of 41,000. My placard in the door shows the gross combined at 43,000. Who is right and what are you seeing?
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Your sticker on your chassis is what you go by.
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