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Old 10-31-2011, 12:49 PM   #21
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This is good stuff! Thanks Rustic Eagle.

I'm sure the rig is a bit lighter (probably about 1000 lbs.), but I've been reading this post: http://www.outbackers.com/forums/ind...howtopic=13284
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:05 PM   #22
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DSS597,

I agree, the Outbackers thread is a little lighter TV/TT application, but provides a good "hands-on" base point for reference. Since you had a TH before, you know how fast weights can add up, especially if one adds fluids.

The one thing about the 32BHDS is it has a "lot" of storage space, and for a family of four adding 1,000lbs of "stuff" (above "ship" weight, which is higher than UVW) is real easy to do.

If you do decide to keep your Yukon as the TV for the 32BHDS, upgrading to an "LT" tire will provide a noticeable difference in handling characteristics when towing a 36ft long TT, even with the Hensley. "P" rated tires lack sidewall strength and tend to give more under towing conditions in general.

I'm sure your thorough do-diligence will provide you with all the correct information to insure that you have a safe and enjoyable TV/TT combination

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Old 10-31-2011, 04:16 PM   #23
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Yeah, that was one of the only posts that I could find with a "hands-on", real world, base point as you say, with the same tow vehicle and accessories. (HD tow package, 4.10 axle, etc.) I wish I could find more like it since everything else is just weight quotes passed on from manufacture's literature.

The good thing with our application is we don't really plan on loading up the trailer storage area with much. Our trips will usually only be 5 days or less, so it will basically be a few suitcases, and whatever food we have in the refrigerator and cabinets. A decent estimate would be around 500 lbs of excess cargo in the trailer itself. (No water on board in the tank of course.)

I have 3 major weight components to balance out on the trailer's axle and frame. I have the Motosat which is about 100 lbs., I have the washer/dryer combo which is roughly another 175 lbs., and I have the Onan generator and fuel tank which should be around 200 lbs. with the generator and hardware. I also have to figure about another 160 lbs. if I end up with a 30 gallon fuel tank. That's just over 600 lbs. that I have to evenly distribute (as best I can) over those axles and the frame. The washer/dryer combo pretty much goes right over the rear set of wheels, and I'm not sure where we're going to put the fuel tank until my install guy sees the undercarriage. The generator will be in the front of the rig, and I'm assuming that the fuel tank will be in front of the wheels but as close as possible to the axles. So I'm not sure if I cheat the Motosat's 100 lbs. behind the wheels just to help even it all out. It will be a weight ballet no doubt. Ha, ha. The cool thing is that I have the rep from Jayco to answer any questions. So far we're on point with everything.

Either way from our estimates, we will be on the cusp of the limit of the Yukon's tow capacity, and technically we should be at the only towing 75% of the towing capacity. If it's anything like my last rig, we will be okay.

What I did find interesting in that post was that the owner didn't feel there was a real big difference between the 1/2 and the 3/4 ton Yukon.

Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to getting it all squared away and posting some weight numbers and pictures on the forum. I'm hoping to know by week's end our delivery date. I was told just before this past weekend that our build has been "scheduled" already.
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:22 PM   #24
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I agree, because of the weight of the items that you will be adding balancing the load will be critical.

One item that you may find useful, and will reduce going back and forth to the scales as you move items around for weight balancing, is a Sherline Tongue Scale. I have the LM-2000 model..., I use it often between myself and helping others.

http://www.sherline.com/lm.htm

Well, in the mean time you can visit the CAT scale with your TV under simulated loaded conditions and confirm your "actual" tow rating, and how much cargo capacity you have available for the TT's tongue weight.

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Yeah, I'll pick one up. And thanks for the tip on the "LT" tires. ;-)
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The good thing with our application is we don't really plan on loading up the trailer storage area with much. Our trips will usually only be 5 days or less, so it will basically be a few suitcases, and whatever food we have in the refrigerator and cabinets. A decent estimate would be around 500 lbs of excess cargo in the trailer itself. (No water on board in the tank of course.)
Just an FYI, most of our trips are of the two day variety (standard weekend), and we don't have anything other than camping equipment loaded (no generator, washer/dryer, etc). Our front storage area is chock full of trailer equipment and camping stuff (chairs, canopies, lanterns, water hoses, sewer hoses/stuff, extension cords, etc, etc, etc). You will fill up the storage area up very quickly without realizing it. Each item may not weigh a whole lot individually, but I have managed to add 1,300lbs without permanently attaching anything to the trailer.

Maybe I missed it, but what did you say the tow rating of your Yukon was?
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We're more "urban dwellers" than campers per se. We'll be using our rig more in lieu of hotel rooms when visiting the family every few weeks. I also work in the television industry and it helps me greatly while on location; nothing like being at "home" while away from home. It's much better than a hotel room, and in some cases, depending on how remote the location is, production will rent trailers for the crew. Again, much rather be in my own. That's also why I have the washer/dryer combo, and the other extras like the generator. (Even though we're usually plugged since they have huge generators to supply power on location.)

I totally hear ya' though TexasA&M, I understand it can all add up with storage, but we're really taking inventory of our weight with all of the custom items, and we won't have the traditional extra items that go with regular camping.

With the 4wd, HD towing package, 4.10 gear ratio, the towing capacity in proven "real-world" conditions is between 8200 lbs. and 8900 lbs.
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Straight from the manual for the 2007 Suburban.

C-1500 (2WD)
Axle Ratio Maximum Trailer Weight GCWR
5300 V8
3.73 7,100 lbs (3 220 kg) 13,000 lbs (5 897 kg)
4.10 8,100 lbs (3 674 kg) 14,000 lbs (6 350 kg)

6000 V8
4.10 8,100 lbs (3 674 kg) 14,000 lbs (6 350 kg)

K-1500 (4WD)
Axle Ratio Maximum Trailer Weight GCWR
5300 V8
3.73 7,000 lbs (3 175 kg) 13,000 lbs (5 897 kg)
4.10 8,000 lbs (3 629 kg) 14,000 lbs (6 350 kg)

6000 V8
4.10 7,900 lbs (3 583 kg) 14,000 lbs (6 350 kg)

Definitely check your tire ratings. I worry about that more than I do the other "stuff." I believe you mentioned the 20" wheels. If it is like my 2008 'burb. The 20" BF Goodrich that came on it are Passenger tires. Don't remember the exact rating, but it wasn't very high.

I also think you are going to blow past this number:

The trailer tongue weight (A) should
be 10 percent to 15 percent of the total loaded
trailer weight, up to a maximum of 1,000 lbs
(453 kg) for the 1500 series and up to a maximum
of 1,500 lbs (680 kg) for the 2500 series with a
weight distributing hitch.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:17 AM   #29
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Yeah, as Rustic Eagle mentioned the 2007 Yukon XL 20" wheels come with the "PT", I will upgrade to "LT".
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #30
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Welcome to the Jayco Owners Forum DSS597 and BamaFlyBoy! We loved the floor plan of the 32bhds, but unfortunately couldn't pull it with our 1/2 ton. We only occasionally take grandkids with us, so the tt we chose does ok for us.

The last time we went to the Pomona rv show was three years ago when we started our research for a new tt. We focused only on bunkhouses, but it took us a whole full day to get through them all!

Definitely get those passenger tires changed out for the LT's. That was part of the deal when we purchased our bling-bling Platinum (had 20" passenger tires originally) You will be so much safer to you and others on the road. Congrats on the new tt!!!
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