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Old 11-02-2011, 07:09 AM   #41
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"Here are my pictures. I'm relieved that I don't have the older tubular style."



But as stated earlier and your pics verify, the max tongue weight on that hitch is 1,000 lbs. Your tongue weight with a loaded 32 BHDS will easily surpass 1,000 lbs.
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:22 AM   #42
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Dry weight it "states" 1,050 lbs. for the 2012 32BHDS. Like I said, once I have it "in-hand" and loaded up, I will take the actual weights and adjust from there.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:30 AM   #43
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Just curious Lee, when you replaced your hitch how did you mount the plug? I see that you have a new bracket shrink wrapped to the new hitch, where did you mount it? Were you able to reuse the GM plug or did you have to disconnect it and go with an aftermarket one? When I've looked at mine, I don't see a way to mount the GM plug in an aftermarket bracket.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:52 AM   #44
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I just drilled a few holes in the bottom of the bumper and mounted it there. I used the same plug and harness that came with the truck, I think I had to alter it a little to fit in the new mount with some screws, but it was no big deal. There are several different mounting options including drilling a hole in the bumper and through mounting it there for a cleaner look. But I was not concerned so much about that.
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Looks good. That is one thing I liked about the factory setup, it looked really nice. I like how on the newer trucks the plug is up in the bumper by the plate, but I wonder if there are any problems with the cord reaching far enough. I don't like how the plug is located on our Suburban. In order to remove my locking pin, I have to open the cover of the plug to have enough remove to remove it, I put the pin through the other way, I have trouble locking it because of the plug being in the way.

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Old 11-02-2011, 11:51 AM   #46
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On a 2500 the hitch is rated for 1500 lbs tongue weight with a WD.
The hitch is rated for 1000 lbs tongue weight. The sticker next to the receiver has this limit. The owners manual is referencing a 15% tongue weight incorrectly.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:05 PM   #47
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The hitch is rated for 1000 lbs tongue weight. The sticker next to the receiver has this limit. The owners manual is referencing a 15% tongue weight incorrectly.
He only has a 1500, thus the 1000 tongue weight.

This is the quote from the owner manual copied and pasted:

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The trailer tongue weight (A) should be 10 percent
to 15 percent of the total loaded trailer weight, up to
a maximum of 600 lbs (272 kg) with a weight
carrying hitch. The trailer tongue weight (A) should
be 10 percent to 15 percent of the total loaded
trailer weight, up to a maximum of 1,000 lbs
(453 kg) for the 1500 series and up to a maximum
of 1,500 lbs (680 kg) for the 2500 series with a
weight distributing hitch.
Thus I stand by my statement that a 2500 series Yukon/Suburban can carry 1500 lbs with a WD hitch.

Just looked at a 2011 manual and here are the new numbers:

Vehicle Series Hitch Type
Maximum Tongue
Weight
1500 Weight Carrying 272 kg (600 lbs)
2500 Weight Carrying 453 kg (1,000 lbs)
1500 Weight Distributing 499 kg (1,100 lbs)
2500 Weight Distributing 680 kg (1,500 lbs)

Here is the link for the Suburban (same as Yukon): http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/...2k11tahsub.pdf It is page 9-85 in the paper book or 369 in the PDF I've linked to.
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He only has a 1500, thus the 1000 tongue weight.

This is the quote from the owner manual copied and pasted:



Thus I stand by my statement that a 2500 series Yukon/Suburban can carry 1500 lbs with a WD hitch.

Just looked at a 2011 manual and here are the new numbers:

Vehicle Series Hitch Type
Maximum Tongue
Weight
1500 Weight Carrying 272 kg (600 lbs)
2500 Weight Carrying 453 kg (1,000 lbs)
1500 Weight Distributing 499 kg (1,100 lbs)
2500 Weight Distributing 680 kg (1,500 lbs)

Here is the link for the Suburban (same as Yukon): http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/...2k11tahsub.pdf It is page 9-85 in the paper book or 369 in the PDF I've linked to.
I have talked to the engineer, and the 1500 lb rating is incorrect in the owners manual. The sticker attached to the hitch, even on the 2500, is correct. That is 1000lb tongue limit. They were supposed to correct the owners manual to be consistent with the actual sticker.
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Sounds like a class action lawsuit against GM.

Seriously though, this is why it's so tough to nail this type of information down; so much misinformation.

That's why I said before I'm just going to wait until I have all of the extras on the rig, and then do all of the different individual weights.

It really is only the true way to know. And of course hearing from peoples' "actual" experience with a similar configuration.
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Something seems strange with that. If it were wrong and GM knows about it, they would have to issue a recall. This would be a major liability for them if someone were to put 1500 lbs on it and it were to break. Heck, they recall my Silverado to put a sticker on the front brake calipers that said do not let the caliper hang by the rubber hose.
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Though we're staying in context, we're starting to slide off the subject a bit. Just to put a button on this particular topic, usually in a case of a "misprint" in an owners manual, automobile manufacturers have a deep legal department to protect them from liabilities. In this case I don't feel they would do a recall as much as they would more than likely have an amended page insert for the owners manual at the dealer level, or even a sticker with the corrected information that would be placed over that section in the owners manual. Besides that there is probably some small print disclosure on the actual owners manual that says something like, Information and specifications are subject to change and blah, blah, blah.

In a case like this though, considering the owners manual is copied and applies to multiple models of GM vehicles, I would go with the sticker on the hitch since it's being placed on each and every part itself.

We're talking 2012 32BHDS here!
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:31 AM   #52
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I have a 1500 Suburban and I would not even attempt to tow my 32BHDS with it. I use my Excursion and on steep inclines it struggles.
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Our 2010 32BHDS does not have the outdoor kitchen ( was not available that year). Ours weighs 9300lbs ready to camp. I also went with the reese dual cam. With a family of 6, sometimes 7, we have enough room on a rainy day.

I totally agree about the room, it is very nice to have the extra bedroom in the rear.

As far as the weight, thats not surprising. We are not heavy packers, but i will be looking forward to the day that i can get a true actual weight on the rig. I dont think it will go over 10k, but we will see. My biggest concern is tongue weight. I am currently running 1200lb bars and i am thinking i may have to move up to 1500lb bars.
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My tongue weight is currently at 1,280lbs (13% of total). I've been thinking of upgrading to the 1,500lb bars as well, but am having a hard time pulling the trigger. The trailer tows really well with the 1,200lb bars, and my axle weights are all within spec, so I don't know how much of am improvement, if any, I will see by upgrading.
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My tongue weight is currently at 1,280lbs (13% of total). I've been thinking of upgrading to the 1,500lb bars as well, but am having a hard time pulling the trigger. The trailer tows really well with the 1,200lb bars, and my axle weights are all within spec, so I don't know how much of am improvement, if any, I will see by upgrading.

If you don't mind me asking, what are your weights? Total weight and weight on axles?
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My tongue weight is currently at 1,280lbs (13% of total). I've been thinking of upgrading to the 1,500lb bars as well, but am having a hard time pulling the trigger.....snip
I agree, can be a tuff call.

If I had your TV/TT combination (and weights) I would go with the 1,500lb rated bars because with my loading habits I would have a higher potential of creeping above 1,280lbs (at times) on the tongue rather than under. Also, keep in mind that the WDH supports a percentage of the cargo weight placed behind the TV's rear axle as well.

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If you don't mind me asking, what are your weights? Total weight and weight on axles?
Total weight - 17,900lbs
Truck (no passengers, a little more than 3/4 tank of fuel) - 8,300lbs
Trailer - 9,600lbs
Tongue Weight - 1,280lbs

FYI, the truck is a 2006 F250 with 6.0 diesel engine.

I'll have to find my papers to see what the weights on the axles were. I do know that when the WD hitch was hooked up, it brought my front axle weight back up to close to the same as when the truck is unloaded. I'll post those numbers when I dig them out of the trailer.

Tongue weight could potentially go up, but I usually pack more or less the same, and these weights are with the truck loaded for a four day trip, so I don't anticipate taking much extra on other trips. The front storage is loaded to the gills (it stays that way, I don't remove and add stuff for each trip), and the back of the truck was full as well.
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I totally agree about the room, it is very nice to have the extra bedroom in the rear.

As far as the weight, thats not surprising. We are not heavy packers, but i will be looking forward to the day that i can get a true actual weight on the rig. I dont think it will go over 10k, but we will see. My biggest concern is tongue weight. I am currently running 1200lb bars and i am thinking i may have to move up to 1500lb bars.
I am running with the 1200lbs bars. I do not think I would get any better of a tow with the 1500lbs bars.
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Well, everybody packs differently. You say your front compartment is loaded to the gills, mine is not. Thats why i want to get a good weigh and see where everything falls.

I have only towed ours twice since we got it, and i think it could be better. I feel the WD and the Reese DC needs some adjustment. The dealer set it up, and i dont feel they did it right. I wanted to be there when they did it, but couldn't due to work schedule.

I will be winterizing in the next week or so, and the TT will not be making anymore trips until spring. But, I'm going to mess with the WD and DC before i put it up for the winter. I'm thinking i may be light in my tongue weight, not sure until i hit scales though.
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Kirk,

Once you start to tackle the CAT scale and adjusting your Reese WD/DC, you may want to start a new thread over at the "Towing and Tow Vehicle" section of this Forum if you want some additional eyes working with you. Pics of your TV/TT WDH will be helpful as well.

There are also a couple of informative "STICKY's" at the top of the Towing and Tow Vehicle section that may be a good reference.

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