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Old 09-13-2017, 01:23 PM   #1
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I am looking at a 2013 F150 with 3.5L EcoBoost with tranny cooler and upgraded radiator. 3.31 axle ratio be a really big difference to the 3.55? Ford spec is 9100# for 3.31 and 9500 for 3.55.
264BHW pulls fine with my 2007 F150 with 3.73 max tow.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:27 PM   #2
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Should be enough truck for that TT. I pulled my 27 DSRL with one like that 2013 version. My TT is 1,500 lbs. heavier and it was OK with the F150 Eco Boost but I am glad I moved up to the F250 for the extra 1,500 lbs. I'm pulling.


If you do get the 2013 F150 make sure the fuse and relay are installed to charge the TT battery from the TV - it does not come that way for some unknown reason.
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Old 09-13-2017, 02:57 PM   #3
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:32 PM   #4
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I have a 2013 with the eco 3.5 and 3.31. And it pulls just fine. My tt weights loaded around 6800. The only complaint is the bounce. I use an equal i zer hitch and I get some bounce that is drives me nuts. Airbags are on my list. All in all the truck out pulls my old 04 5.4 and I am happy with that.
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Old 09-13-2017, 04:03 PM   #5
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I have a '13 Eco with the MaxTow package. It came with 3.73 gears but with my bigger tires it equates to approx the 3.55 ratio. I had some bounce too with my 900lb tongue weight trailer, and some load range E tires aired to 60psi and adding Roadmaster Active Suspension sorted that out. I added some upgrades to powertrain, suspension, tires, etc. but these trucks even in their stock form are animals. There is tons of available power - no question about that. That should be plenty of truck for what you are pulling.

I, as well as many other EcoBoost owners prefer to run 91+ octane fuel while towing for the added power and slightly better fuel economy. I go back to 87 for the off-season.

Change the oil often, give it fresh spark plugs way before Ford's recommendation, and don't be afraid to put your foot into it now and then and open it up.

You will likely want to lock out 6th gear while towing, especially with 3.31s to keep the revs up a bit closer to the torque band. Peak torque occurs at 2500rpm BUT 90% of that is available above 1800rpm. I tow in 5th at 1900-1950rpm and it gives about 97km/h which is perfect, and it will sit there all day including moderate hills. If I let it go into 6th, it drops down to 1500-1600rpm and will downshift into 5th for any sort of uphill grade (in summer temps). It's a perfect demonstration of the torque curve of the EcoBoost.
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I have a 2014 f150 with the max tow package and tow a 284bhsw TT with no issues. I have been up 8% grades and the truck never worked hard. I do lock out over drive and started using 91 octane and gained 2 mpg.
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Thanks for your answers, folks!
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I have a 2014 F150 3.5 Eco boost. It's my work truck so I don't tow my WH 24RKS with it. I use my Tundra Crewmax which has a tow rating of 10,400 and TW of 1,398. Honestly I can't imagine towing my 24RKS with my work truck. It's pretty much a dry work truck (I'm a manager), but that 3.5 EB is going to suck down the fuel like you won't believe. I towed a small empty trailer 250 miles on flat roads and it sucked down the entire tank of gas. When those turbos kick in which they will towing a TT it goes from 17.6 MPG to 7 MPG even on flat roads. I love the TT EB 3.5, it is simply an awesome engine, but compared to my 5.7 I averaged 15 MPG from Arizona to Dorango CO which wasn't flat. I agree, 6th gear it out. Just my thoughts, not trying to spoil anything.
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I have a 2013 with the eco 3.5 and 3.31. And it pulls just fine. My tt weights loaded around 6800. The only complaint is the bounce. I use an equal i zer hitch and I get some bounce that is drives me nuts. Airbags are on my list. All in all the truck out pulls my old 04 5.4 and I am happy with that.
Be careful using Airbags with the Equalizer, or any weight distributing hitch for that matter. The airbags actually raise the rear end taking weight off the bars counteracting the gains made by using the hitch in the first place.
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I have a 2014 F150 3.5 Eco boost. It's my work truck so I don't tow my WH 24RKS with it. I use my Tundra Crewmax which has a tow rating of 10,400 and TW of 1,398. Honestly I can't imagine towing my 24RKS with my work truck. It's pretty much a dry work truck (I'm a manager), but that 3.5 EB is going to suck down the fuel like you won't believe. I towed a small empty trailer 250 miles on flat roads and it sucked down the entire tank of gas. When those turbos kick in which they will towing a TT it goes from 17.6 MPG to 7 MPG even on flat roads. I love the TT EB 3.5, it is simply an awesome engine, but compared to my 5.7 I averaged 15 MPG from Arizona to Dorango CO which wasn't flat. I agree, 6th gear it out. Just my thoughts, not trying to spoil anything.
The fuel economy hit while towing is definitely there, but not abnormal. I burn about 24-25L/100km (9.5mpg) when towing and 13-14L/100km (17mpg) mixed driving when not towing. It was even a bit better before the lift and tires. Quite respectable really. I will say that headwinds and excessive towing speeds affect the EcoBoost fuel burn dramatically, and this is because of the turbos providing more boost on a constant demand. The flip side is when the truck isn't working hard and the turbos are low boost or close to idling, the fuel economy is better than anything else comparable in power.

Your scenario of towing a small trailer 250mi and using an entire tank of gas could be a few different factors - tank size? If it's the smaller 90l tank and you drove 250mi you did 11mpg or better. Towing speed? If you were doing 120km/h then you could have improved it significantly by slowing down. Wind? Hilly terrain? My point is that how you tow and what you're towing in, are huge in towing performance.

Fun fact, both 5th and 6th gear are overdrive gears in the SelectShift transmission. So locking out 6th and running in 5th, you still have overdrive
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Should be enough truck for that TT. I pulled my 27 DSRL with one like that 2013 version. My TT is 1,500 lbs. heavier and it was OK with the F150 Eco Boost but I am glad I moved up to the F250 for the extra 1,500 lbs. I'm pulling.


If you do get the 2013 F150 make sure the fuse and relay are installed to charge the TT battery from the TV - it does not come that way for some unknown reason.
I saw folks discussing gas mileage after my post so I thought I'd add:

F150 I got about 9 mpg. With the same TT my F250 Diesel gets 14 mpg
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I have a '13 Eco with the MaxTow package. It came with 3.73 gears but with my bigger tires it equates to approx the 3.55 ratio. I had some bounce too with my 900lb tongue weight trailer, and some load range E tires aired to 60psi and adding Roadmaster Active Suspension sorted that out.
X2, More PSI, even airing up the P-Rated tires to Max, and RAS make a big difference on the bouncing on these trucks, may not eliminate it totally on some roads, but night and day difference. RAS are fairly inexpensive and really simple to install, I think the thing drove better empty as well (less roll on curves, etc)
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:35 AM   #13
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OK....so I am still searching for a newer truck. Would an F-150 with a 5.0L V8 with a 3.55 Axle be enough to tow my 264BHW?
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:32 PM   #14
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Most Definitely

If you look at my signature you'll see what I'm pulling and the truck. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE our F-150. It's pulled our 264 through the hills of eastern Arkansas with NO PROBLEM. Now, that said, I drove big truck for 25 years, but it was still a learning curve transitioning to a travel trailer. It did take some time to adjust loading the trailer properly, and getting used to the fact of locking out 6th gear. Up in those hills, I would drop down to M on the shifter and thumb-shift the gears. We have the Sport model with the center console shift, and it's the best decision we made. Going down the steep-graded hills, I'd tap the brakes a couple of times, and use a good gear to keep the speed in check. And on the uphill, drop a gear to keep the revs toward the upper end, and the power right there.

I will agree, the fuel mileage could be better, but I'm also pulling a 3 ton trailer, so I don't expect great fuel mileage. When I'm driving around town, I can get upwards of 18 mpg. I'm also running 10-ply LT truck tires so I'm definitely set up for pulling the TT.

One of the BEST things you'll LOVE is the way the truck sounds. It's got a really nice, deep throaty rumble when it drops down a gear after you drop the pedal. I've been behind an RV going down the road, and pulled out to pass, loving to see it being pulled by a Chevy. Dropping down to 3rd gear at 55 mph, about 3 grand, and blasting past them, look down again, and I'm doing 70, and just pull over in front of them and go down the road. It's a great setup, and I wouldn't change a thing about it.
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The flip side is when the truck isn't working hard and the turbos are low boost or close to idling, the fuel economy is better than anything else comparable in power)

My wife and I consistently gets 20+- mpg with her ‘16 Yukon Denali XL. That is very comparable, power wise, that gets better mpg, especially when being worked.
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For me, I already know going in that MPG is not my real issue. If you're owning an RV and MPG is the top concern, owning an RV is not super awesome.
I have turned away from searching for an EcoBoost in turn for a 5.0L V8 only because I am still out on the EcoBoost length of service (turbos going out, etc)
. I currently drive a 5.4L 07 FX4 with 228K on it. Runs like a top. Just getting the itch to upgrade. Before that, I had a 98 F150. Sold it with 252K and still see it. So....I kind of want to go the V8 route as it has treated me well. I just want to make sure the 3.55 axle is enough or if it makes sense to continue looking for a 3.73. I'm definitely not against the wall, needing something ASAP.
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3.55 to 3.73 is a minimal change. Ford's putting 3.55's in a lot of their F150's. In most cases, with the power of some of the newer engines and transmission options, 3.55's are adequate. But there are some 3.73 F150's out there. My 2013 Super Duty came with 3.55's and it has plenty of pulling power and torque. 3.73's were an option as were 4.30's. 4.30's were found more in duallies and F450 & F550's.
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This is our 4th F-150. I bought my first brand new in Sept. '80, a '79 model that was 4X4, with the 300 6-cylinder, and pulled like you wouldn't believe. The next one I got was a used '78 F-150 about 1985 from a mechanic at work, and sold it '97 or 98, because the front end was gone and didn't want to put the money in it. My 3rd I bought in 2013 from a family friend, whose Dad bought it new in '01. It had the trailering package, as his Dad had a TT, about the size we have. His Dad went into nursing home about 2 years later, and the kids sold the trailer. It pulled the 264 fine but we were having problems with the brakes & controller.

We traded in my wife's '14 Escape for the new F-150, and got good money for it. I really like the way it pulls the trailer, and with the 6 speed & 3.55's, I'm perfectly comfortable going anyplace with it. The 36 gallon tank is almost a MUST HAVE, giving you a full-days run on a single fill-up.
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