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Old 09-07-2015, 09:29 PM   #1
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2014 28BHBE doesn't tow well

I have a 2014 28BHBE trailer and I tow it with a 2014 Ford F150 ecoboost. I have added Firestone Air Bags, Nitto Grappler G2 LT tires, and use a Reese round bar WD hitch with dual cam sway control. I went to the scales and the tongue weight of the trailer is 12.6% (960 lbs) according to my calculations. It seems to push the truck around and is really bad in the wind. Anyone have suggestions or similar experience on what to do or adjust to make this tow better?
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:34 PM   #2
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The answer you are going to get from this forum you will not like. That big of a trailer is too much for a 1/2 ton truck.
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:39 PM   #3
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I wasn't going to say it, but... You see what we're towing with in signature. Gotta look at it as mass vs. mass. By tow ratings, you're probably ok. But, when you look at mass vs. mass, that trailer can make a rag doll out of a light truck on a windy day.

Welcome to the forum Yetti76. Wish I had a magic answer.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:14 PM   #4
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Thanks for responding. Have to upgrade the truck or downsize the trailer
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That's a nice trailer, nice truck too, but think I'd upgrade the truck before downsizing the trailer.
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Old 09-08-2015, 12:24 AM   #6
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I was pulling the Eagle version of the trailer along the Columbia River last month with a terrible sidewind. The trailer was swaying, but I was sure glad to have my sway control as well as a 1 ton tow vehicle up front. If felt under control the entire time. If you have the ability to go up to a 3/4 or heavier, I would seriously consider it.
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Old 09-08-2015, 01:52 AM   #7
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F150 Towing - Properly set up

Sorry for this long post and Im sorry to hear of your sway problem. I have a 2014 F150 Ecoboost, Maxtow with Firestone Air Bags, Michelin LTX/ MS/2 E rated tires and Blue Ox WD hitch/sway control. My trailer is shorter than yours but probably similar in weight. I pull a 27RLS which is 30 feet long and I haul about 8,000+ lbs with a tongue weight of around 1,000+ lbs. I do not over load the truck or the trailer. I stay within the GVWR and the GCVWR and the axle ratings for my F150 and trailer. I have owned two F350 diesel and one F250 gas trucks and they do tow nicely. However, there are reasons I own and tow with the F150 Ecoboost, Maxtow such as much better fuel mileage in town and on the road when not towing. Yes, the F250/350 will tow better, but the F150 Ecoboost, Maxtow does a fine job of towing. For me the F150 Ecoboost does a pretty good job of towing. Strong cross winds can be a challenge though.

If you are going to stay with the F150 Ecoboost, and assuming you are not overloaded, it sounds like you might need to better adjust your WD system, air bags and tire pressure to help correct your problem.

This is how I dialed in my setup. This works for me and I provide it for informational purposes only. However, I recommend you get and follow qualified professional help in getting your system dialed in and to make sure your truck is capable to haul your trailer and load. You might need to upgrade your truck as others have said.

This is how I determined the correct PSI for the air bags and the correct WD hitch set up for me. It may or may not work for you. It worked well for me. I tow with 20 PSI in the air bags. I determined that by hooking up the trailer to the truck without the distribution bars and then leveling the truck using just the air bags to level it, making sure the front end of the truck was at the same height or no higher than inch of the unhooked height (never lower than the unhooked height though). The PSI in the air bags at this point is the PSI to use in the air bags (20 PSI for me) when fully hooked up using the WD bars. I also made sure the front end of the trailer was slanting slightly down. On mine, after final adjustments to the hitch, the front end of the truck was within inch (higher than) of the unhooked measurement of the truck and my trailer slanted slightly down (Ive towed with the trailer level but for me it works best with the front of the trailer slanted slightly downward). I then hooked up the WD system and double checked to make sure the front of the truck was at the correct height and the front of the trailer was still slanted slight down. I had to lower my hitch ball height one notch in order to end up with the right height of the front of the truck and the front of the trailer slanting slight downward, after airing up the bags and hooking up the WD/sway control.

Now, when Im ready to hook up and go, I pump up the air bags to 20 PSI, hook up the trailer and the WD system and Im ready to go.

I run a tight WD/sway control set up. I tried loosening the WD by lowering the chain by one link to make it easier to hook up. That was okay for no wind and light traffic conditions, but I prefer the tighter WD/sway control to avoid problems if I run into cross winds, wind gusts, and large vehicles that pass. So I normally do not lower the chain by the one link.

As for the tires, I run 48.5 PSI in the front and 50.5 PSI in the rear tires on the F150 when I tow. The Michelin LTX MS/2 E rated tires have a max PSI of 80PSI. I called Michelin after installing the LT tires to find out what PSI I should run in their tires on the F150. After about 10 minutes of them doing calculations they came back and told me to run 45 PSI in front and rear to obtain the equivalent of the OEM P rated tires. I asked if that would ruin the LT tires to run them so low and their response to me was not at all! They assured me it was perfectly okay to run these E rated tires at 45 PSI on my F150. Ive determined through trial and error to run 48.5 in the front and 50.5 PSI in the rear when towing. Ive tried running higher PSI but that is like riding a skidder down the road rough ride and there seemed to be a bit less control of the vehicle at a higher PSI. I recognize there are others who will run their E rated tires on their half ton at higher PSI.

On the air bags, I tried running them at a higher PSI but that seemed to introduce a feeling of less control of the vehicle. I run mine at 20 PSI as determined above. However, sometimes if Im on a very rough bouncy road I will add some air to the bags using my remote control and on board air compressor while Im going down the road and this will help smooth out the ride. I will return the bags to the 20 PSI using the remote control as soon as I can for the best ride and seemingly better control.

Strong cross winds can cause problems for any rig, including large tractor trailers. The heavier duty F250/F350 trucks will fare better in those conditions, but they can also have problems in sever wind conditions. My experience is to slow down to a safer speed during the strong cross winds, or just pull off and park so the wind is not directly hitting the truck and trailer broadside and wait for the winds to die down if they are very strong. There seems to always be some wind and that should not pose a major problem. Its the 20-30 plus MPH cross winds that create a challenge for me. Then if they hit 40 50 MPH I am very careful, slow down, and if they persist I will find a place to park and wait out the storm (that has only happened once to me in the F150 for 250 miles of 20 30 MPH winds with gust up to 45 MPH very exciting ride).

I do not drive faster than 60 MPH. I can drive faster, but its not worth it to me. With my set up I seem to have much more control and very little sway when I drive at 60 MPH or slower. Plus, I get the best gas mileage at that speed. My last trip I got 12 MPG at that speed no major grades to cross. The trip before that I got between 11 and 12 MPG at that speed with some grades to cross. In the mountains with lots of steeper grades (6% or higher) that mileage goes down to around 8.5 - 9 MPG.

My experience is that the F150 Ecoboost, Maxtow has plenty of power and is very capable of towing. In my situation I just needed to get the air bags, WD, and tires properly set up and adjusted to handle the load, even though I was within the GVWR and GCVWR and axle rating for the truck. Once I accomplished that the towing experience was fine.

Good luck in correcting your sway issue.
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Old 09-08-2015, 01:55 AM   #8
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Agreed, not enough truck. Nice truck, good thinking on tires, bags to level... Just not enough mass.
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:50 AM   #9
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You need to visit a CAT scale and see if your WDH is setup properly and if you are within weight limits for your truck.
If you have any payload leftover you can transfer some weight in your trailer to increase the tongue weight a bit. I find trailers a bit more stable around 13-15% tongue weight.
Side winds still affect 3/4 and 1 tons as well but it is more comfortable with a heavier truck!

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...v-tt-3871.html

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...wdhs-3873.html
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Old 09-08-2015, 10:58 AM   #10
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Man I have the same trailer. Just traded the F150 ecoboost. I was getting pushed and pulled on the highway by passing traffic. Big cars and small SUV's would pull me in. That truck make rv camping possible for us, but after towing I did not want to go very far with my family. Just didn't feel safe.

A bigger truck will help. With my current TV, towing is like night and day. This is where camping really gets expensive....
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