Jayco RV Owners Forum
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-01-2015, 03:18 PM   #31
Site Team
 
norty1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 12,064
2014 F150 plus 28BHBE equals?

Folks, we can disagree with out insulting each other, or we can close the thread. Your choice.

Personally, the sticker on the truck door trumps any assumptions made in the charts published. The sticker does't assume anyone is in the truck. I never use those charts for anything but ball park figures. That, IMO is why they are making assumptions. When you get to the door sticker, those assumptions do not matter.

This is my opinion, I don't try to force it on anyone who disagrees with me.
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByTapatalk1446423059.044698.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	118.7 KB
ID:	20690
__________________

__________________
Moderator
2011 351RLTS Eagle, Mor/Ryde suspension & pin box
06 F350 Lariat PSD, SRW, LB, CC, EGR delete kit, 16K DrawTite hitch, Timbrens, TST TPMS

Can't find what you're looking on JOF? Try:Jayco Owners Forum Custom Google Search
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain
norty1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 08:15 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
xtruckerbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 268
Great illustration!!
__________________

__________________
"Freedom has a taste to those who fought and almost died for it ... that the protected will never know. Anonymous"



2016 Chevy High Country CC 2500 4x4 Duramax
30 DSRE White Hawk
xtruckerbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 09:55 PM   #33
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Mid-Mi
Posts: 1,457
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclones View Post
Just one boy who is 8yrs old. One of the reason I wanted a bigger trailer was so that he could bring a friend with us. It's just too bad that this one seems so perfect for what we want and my new truck won't handle it well. I bought my f-150 last November so I'd lose too much getting rid of it too soon. Can anyone recommend a lighter Jayco with similar features?

Out of curiosity, could I not put the stuff that I would normally put in the bed of the truck in the rear of the trailer instead? I know that it sounds like I'm trying to talk myself into it (I kind of am) but I'm also just curious about the answer. If loaded in the trailer then it's only a percentage of it's weight being added to the payload and not it's full weight. Also being behind the trailer wheels should make any added hitch weight negligible shouldn't it? It would be adding more to the Tow Weight.
You could very well run with the truck bed empty! That would help some, but it seems there just isn't enough payload still for your truck. Even with only your one son, and possibly a friend.

The thing to remember about loading stuff in the trailer behind the wheels, as you did memtion, will decrease the tw. BUT.... you have to be careful not to reduce the tw to much as to light of tw can and will cause sway!!!! Example: You camp where there is not any water hook ups, or a dump station. Fresh water tank is forward of axles, black and grey tanks are behind the axles. So heading out the fresh tank is full, black/ grey tanks empty: tows fine. Trip home, fresh tank just about empty, but black/ grey tanks fairly full. This mush added weight to the rear could possibly/ probably cause the trailer to sway due to not having enough tw.

I do have to agree with the yellow payload sticker NOT including any passengers/ occupants as stated on the sticker. There just is not any way to interpret that info any different! As mentioned, regardless of a generic chart printed by Ford, the yellow payload sticker is specific for THAT vehicle.

Good luck in your search for a trailer that will work!
__________________
Bubba J- '13 Chevy Silverado 2500HD LT CCSB 4x4 6.0

'16 Jay Flight 32 BHDS ELITE 32 BHDS MODS Reese DC HP

WDH SET UP. HOW A WDH WORKS. CAT SCALE HOW TO.
need-a-vacation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 09:57 PM   #34
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Portland
Posts: 385
Quote:
Originally Posted by spoon059 View Post
I am with you. The payload picture clearly states the following;

THE COMBINED WEIGHT OF OCCUPANTS AND CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED 1138 LBS.

It doesn't say that the combined weight of should never exceed 1138 lbs, plus 150 lbs per 5 passengers for a total of 1888 lbs... it clearly states COMBINED WEIGHT SHOULD NOT EXCEED 1138 LBS.

That isn't gray area, that isn't confusing, that isn't open for interpretation.
You are absolutely correct on this. Where it gets interesting is how much does the truck actually weigb empty? For example, my '14 F150 Ecoboost max tow, has a sticker rating of 7,700lb GVWR with a 1,750 payload rating. That means Ford thinks my truck weighs 5950 empty. However, i have weighed it empty at three different certified scales with just me in the truck (185) and a full tank of fuel. Each time the scale read 5800lbs. So technically without me in the truck i have 2,130lb of available payload if I go by the GVWR and a certified scale.

All three of my Ram trucks also weighed less than the payload sticker implied. However my 02 F350 was overweight by 600lb. I dont understand the variables on behalf of the manufacturers but i think it pays to weigh your truck and go by the GVWR.
__________________
2016 23MBH Elite
2014 F150 SCREW LB Ecoboost
blderman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 10:28 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Modesto
Posts: 261
I have a '14 F-150 screw with the regular tow package and 3.31 rear ratio. My sticker says the combined weight should never exceed 1649 lbs.

How is it possible that my truck without the max tow package has a much higher payload capacity?
__________________
2014 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost with 3.31 rear drive
2016 White Hawk 23MRB
tylersdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 11:08 PM   #36
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Portland
Posts: 385
Quote:
Originally Posted by tylersdad View Post
I have a '14 F-150 screw with the regular tow package and 3.31 rear ratio. My sticker says the combined weight should never exceed 1649 lbs.

How is it possible that my truck without the max tow package has a much higher payload capacity?
That is why I go by the gvwr. I cant figure out the factory payload ratings at all.
__________________
2016 23MBH Elite
2014 F150 SCREW LB Ecoboost
blderman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 11:28 PM   #37
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Modesto
Posts: 261
Quote:
Originally Posted by blderman View Post
That is why I go by the gvwr. I cant figure out the factory payload ratings at all.

I have the XLT. We don't have every option available, but it's certainly not stripped. Our GVWR is 7100 lbs.
__________________
2014 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost with 3.31 rear drive
2016 White Hawk 23MRB
tylersdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2015, 07:52 AM   #38
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: OKC
Posts: 301
Quote:
Originally Posted by tylersdad View Post
I have a '14 F-150 screw with the regular tow package and 3.31 rear ratio. My sticker says the combined weight should never exceed 1649 lbs.

How is it possible that my truck without the max tow package has a much higher payload capacity?
Is your truck 4WD? That adds weight to the frame which in turn reduces the available payload. I would expect a 2wd to have more payload than the same truck with 4wd.
__________________
2016 Road Warrior 355
2015 Ram 3500 Cummins SRW 4x4 MegaCab ShortBed
2011 F150 ecoboost - Traded
2015 Jayflight 28 BHBE (sold)
2009 Jayflight 26 BH (sold)
hboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2015, 08:19 AM   #39
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Modesto
Posts: 261
Quote:
Originally Posted by hboy View Post
Is your truck 4WD? That adds weight to the frame which in turn reduces the available payload. I would expect a 2wd to have more payload than the same truck with 4wd.
Good point. No, it's not 4WD. I think that's about 200 lbs right there.
__________________
2014 Ford F-150 3.5L EcoBoost with 3.31 rear drive
2016 White Hawk 23MRB
tylersdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2015, 01:16 PM   #40
Senior Member
 
olyelr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Kewadin, MI
Posts: 190
Yeah adding 4wd reduces payload.
__________________

__________________
2016 Jayflight 28BHBE Elite
2016 RAM 2500 Laramie Power Wagon (4x4, 6.4 Hemi, 4.10 gears).

olyelr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia State Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2002-2016 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.