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Old 08-13-2015, 10:51 AM   #91
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Camper Bob, what are the specs on your truck as far as weight and tow capabilities? I just posted some CAT scale results from our rig on your other post from a year or so ago.

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f3...tml#post331423

We just got a 2016 28BHBE and are pulling it with a 2007 GMC Sierra 1500HD. We're on our first trip, and I stopped to weigh things. My results show we're within everything except the GCWR, which is 14,000 for our truck and we're around 14,700. Interestingly enough as well, and worth mentioning for those looking at the BHBE, the sticker on ours shows around 6900lbs off the factory and the weight, loaded with cargo, but no water, is around 8100lbs. So that sticker really doesn't tell the story.

I will say our 1500HD pulls the trailer ok, but only in third gear, as fourth just can't manage it unless it's totally level road. Third runs around 2500-2900 RPMS, with all temps well under any red line, and I'm getting about 7.5MPG. Not great, but doable for trips around the state. But again, our 1500HD (6.0L) has higher payload (2900lbs) and tow weight capabilities (8300lbs) than many 1/2 ton trucks. I don't think I'd want to try the 28BHBE with anything less for sure.

Anyway, I'm curious what your RAM has as specs as I definitely think we'll be looking for a new TV at some point in the next year or two.

Ohiomom...good luck in your search and purchase! If you go with the 28BHBE, you'll love the floorplan. This is our third rig as a family and first Jayco. We just got ours and are out on our first trip and love it! We're a family of 4 with my boys being 13 and 15.
Specs on my RAM (all weights in lbs, and according the actual placards on the vehicle):

2015 RAM 2500 Tradesman, Crew Cab, 6'4" box, 4x4, 6.4L HEMI, 3.73 Rear End.

Available Payload: 3130
GVWR: 10,000
GAWR Front: 5500
GAWR Rear: 6500
Tires: Firestone Transforce HT LT275/70R18E

According to RAM's towing/payload guide (Ram Trucks - Towing Capacity Chart):
Max Payload: 3281
Max Towing: 12,600


This truck is my daily driver. If I had a longer commute (7 miles one way) I might have considered a diesel in the same truck. That would drop payload to just over 2000, (and of course increase the price $6-8K). As it is, I only put about 12K miles on my truck every year, and I figured those short drives wouldn't be good for the Cummins Diesel (and I couldn't afford it anyway), so I went with the gasser. I get about the same mileage as I got with my GMC, unloaded. I get slightly better mileage with the trailer.

So far I have about 4600 miles on the truck, and 25% has been towing and I KNOW I made the right decision; I KNEW it about 3 minutes into my first tow with the new truck.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:02 PM   #92
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I so badly want to swap out my 3.31 for the 3.73 on my F-150.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:16 PM   #93
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Specs on my RAM (all weights in lbs, and according the actual placards on the vehicle):

2015 RAM 2500 Tradesman, Crew Cab, 6'4" box, 4x4, 6.4L HEMI, 3.73 Rear End.

Available Payload: 3130
GVWR: 10,000
GAWR Front: 5500
GAWR Rear: 6500
Tires: Firestone Transforce HT LT275/70R18E
I have a 2015 2500 Tradesman, CC short bed, 4x4 with the Cummins. My payload is about 800 lbs lower at 2370. Wish it was higher, but we decided we wanted a diesel this time around.
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Old 08-13-2015, 07:40 PM   #94
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I have a 2015 2500 Tradesman, CC short bed, 4x4 with the Cummins. My payload is about 800 lbs lower at 2370. Wish it was higher, but we decided we wanted a diesel this time around.
As a comparison my buddy has a '13 Mega Cab Laramie 4x4, Ram box, Cummins with 22xx+ lbs payload per the sticker (don't remember the exact amount!)
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:28 AM   #95
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Does the payload suffer as much in the 3500 trucks when comparing gas to diesel? A diesel with 2200lbs of payload is nearly useless if you ask me. EcoBoost Max Tows can get you that much easily.
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Old 08-14-2015, 09:32 AM   #96
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Does the payload suffer as much in the 3500 trucks when comparing gas to diesel? A diesel with 2200lbs of payload is nearly useless if you ask me. EcoBoost Max Tows can get you that much easily.
The same truck in 3500 with diesel has about 4k payload, according to the towing guide. Shave a bit off for options, but I'd say you're still well north of 3500 lbs in that truck.

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Old 08-14-2015, 09:35 AM   #97
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Does the payload suffer as much in the 3500 trucks when comparing gas to diesel? A diesel with 2200lbs of payload is nearly useless if you ask me. EcoBoost Max Tows can get you that much easily.
Diesel engine weigh about 800lbs more than the comparable gas. So yes, regardless if it's a 2500 or 3500 the payload will be about 800lbs less.

Regardless if an Eco boost can get 2k+ payload, it still isn't a diesel. After towing with a diesel--nothing else matters for me. Don't care if it cost more, fuel is higher or lower, or if the payload is lower than the gas equivalent. Towing with a diesel opposed to gas is that much better.
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Old 08-15-2015, 01:59 PM   #98
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here is a sneak peak to what *might* be happening in the near future.. if it does.. I'll share.. a special thank you to all of you who have contributed so much. As painful as this has been, as frustrating and horrible and heartbreaking, we might finally be moving forward. Fingers crossed..

thanks again

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Be anxious to hear more. We are going to be shopping soon for a new TV I think as the 28BHBE is just a tad too much for our current one. Good luck in your purchases and definitely post back!
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here is a sneak peak to what *might* be happening in the near future.. if it does.. I'll share.. a special thank you to all of you who have contributed so much. As painful as this has been, as frustrating and horrible and heartbreaking, we might finally be moving forward. Fingers crossed..

thanks again


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