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Old 06-07-2015, 11:31 AM   #1
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24fbs real world loaded tongue wt

Anyone have a Jayflight 24 FBS? Wondering what loaded tongue wt runs and how you like this model.
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That's very subjective and can vary widely by how the TT is loaded. I'm guessing your trying to figure if x vehicle can safely pull it?


It's best to use max weight of the loaded trailer, listed as GVWR and take 12% of that as tongue weight.


What vehicle are you planning to tow with?
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Anyone have a Jayflight 24 FBS? Wondering what loaded tongue wt runs and how you like this model.
Joe- We bought the 24FBS because the floor plan exactly fit our needs. It works for the 2 of us with an occasional grandkid or two. Ours has all the extras we wanted. It's 27' so it pulls with my F150 easily and is a breeze to back into smaller CG sites. You can sure get one bigger but who spends time inside anyway, unless it's raining?
Good luck on your decision.
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We also have 24FBS. A 2014 model and we also pull it with a F150 Supercrew.

It is a great size for a couple, but I wouldn't recommend it for a family. Pulls easily with a half ton. I agree with everything Jeff said as well.

We have been considering upgrading to a larger unit, but that's only because we may be doing some snowbirding and its a bit small for that.

Below is a link to a post with my mini-review of the trailer after a four month road trip. I hope it helps.

http://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f1...rip-21018.html
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Our TV and why we ask

We have a 2014 F 150 crew cab 4x4 FX4 with 3.55. Max tongue wt 1050#, Max load 1520# Max GCWR 15,500 Max Trailer 9600# GVWR 7200#
GRAW 4050# FGAW 3750# P Tires 20" yellow sticker says max load 1147#, called Ford Detroit they say yellow sticker has to be wrong should be twice that, haven't had time to get to dealer to check out.

Been torn between Jayco 27 DSRL when I bought truck and thought it would work hands down, to now maybe a 24 FBS would be better. Also looking at Lance trailers. They have some models that are extra tongue heavy and thus make it difficult to balance within truck specs. I realize if trailer not heavy tongue I can use 12% of max load of trailer but after seeing the Lance 2185 was so heavy tongue wt and also much heavier than sales literature quote it vs real world reports from their forum.

Appreciate all help on these forums, sure don't get much from truck or rv dealers.
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I agree with ykcamom. The FBS is perfect for a couple and a dog, maybe smaller kids. It is a great layout and not too big. I have found that quite a few places have size restrictions, so in our case smaller is better. I was towing it with a yukon before I upgraded with no problems. Your Ford should handle it just fine. I would buy the Jayco over the Lance just for this forum. This site has been invaluable.
Best of luck to you and let us know what you decide
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I would suggest adding 600-1000# to the "shipped" weight of the TT (found on the TT's yellow sticker). 13%-15% would give you an idea of what tongue weight to expect. For an even clearer picture visit the CAT Scale and get your weights. (The trim line and drive train will affect payload). I seem to recall that the 20" rims lower the payload but I can't say with certainty.
There seems to be quite a few folks towing this TT with the F-150 so it's probably a good combination.
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24FBS dry hitch weight is 505 LBS. this is calculated from the factory with full 30 lbs. propane tanks.
Unloaded weight of 24 FBS 4655 lbs. No fluids our personal contents.
Cargo capacity 2345.
GVWR 7000 lbs.
We had a 2011 for 3.5 years and loved it.
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:22 PM   #9
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Really like this trailer. Dry weight was 5240 lbs with propane. We've loaded ours at 6000 lbs for a 6 week trip in the Rockies. Loaded tongue was 800 lbs. Perfect couples TT. Towing with an equalizer 10,000 using a Ford Expedition. Towed great over Loveland and Vail passes.
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First off the dealer is wrong and your yellow sticker is right. The FX4 is pretty optioned and with the larger rims your payload will be lower than typical. 1147lbs sounds about right to me. There is no way it will be double that.

Go weigh your truck at a scale and you will know for sure.
7200lbs - actual truck weight = your payload capacity

1520lbs would be your payload if you had the absolute, most basic truck without any options. Carpets, floor mats, stereo (nav), leather (big one), backup camera, running boards, fender flairs, tonneau cover, center console, fog lights, 20" rims.......

It all adds up very quickly.

The Kroc gives good info. I think 6000lbs loaded is very reasonable for this trailer and with careful packing the tongue weight will be around 700 to 800lbs (12-13%). It could creep up to 900 - 1000lbs though if you load it up.

Loaded up you will probably be very close to your max payload but considering the "smaller" size of the trailer and if you keep it light you should be fine. People do tow larger trailers with half tons.

How many people will be travelling in the truck while towing? If it is more than just you and one other person your payload probably won't be enough.

Does anyone know if the FX4 package changes out any suspension components for a better "offroad" experience? I think the leaf springs might also be softer. I know the Raptor's have really low payload as well. Right around 1000lbs.

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The real question is that tow package the HD towing package. The numbers don't look right Okie joe. 7200 GVWR is for 4x4 Ecoboost Crew without HD tow.

See ford Specs here http://www.fordf150.net/2014/2014-f150-tech-specs.pdf
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I know it is very confusing. I have called Ford Detroit hot line and talked to dealer people numerous times. They say bigger specs than I find. We weighed on cat scale at 6280# with wife, myself and bed hard backflip cover. Ford book gives for our model but not saying what options GCWR 15,500#, GVWR 7200#, 1520# max load, 9600# max trailer. GM, Ram, Ford all distort figures so much no wonder no one knows for sure what is right. I know I don't know but I see many posts of people pulling way more than I plan to pull or think I can with similar trucks.
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I know it is very confusing. I have called Ford Detroit hot line and talked to dealer people numerous times. They say bigger specs than I find. We weighed on cat scale at 6280# with wife, myself and bed hard backflip cover. Ford book gives for our model but not saying what options GCWR 15,500#, GVWR 7200#, 1520# max load, 9600# max trailer. GM, Ram, Ford all distort figures so much no wonder no one knows for sure what is right. I know I don't know but I see many posts of people pulling way more than I plan to pull or think I can with similar trucks.
They really don't distort the numbers, how you option the vehicle really effects the capabilities and most dealer sales people are clueless.

If you have an Ecoboost 4X4, super screw, short bed, 3.55 axle, with regular trailer towing, then your numbers are: 7200# GVWR, tow capacity of 9600# for a 15,500 GCWR rated truck.

the same exact looking truck with 3.73 axles and Max towing package has a GVWR of 7650# and jumps to GCWR of 17,100 and max towing capacity of 11,200#.

What you really have to watch is max payload, with your cat scale weight of 6280# and GVWR of 7200# you have a payload of 920#, a WD hitch will be 80 to 100#, so max tongue weight of the trailer is 820#. This 820 puts you right at the max,(not good) with no gear in the truck other than what was in it when you weighed it.

So if you decide to push to the max you can only pull a 8200# trailer even though the base model is listed as being able to pull 9600#, this is becuase you, your wife, the WD hitch, backflip and other vehicle options have reduced your payload.

Most people run into a payload problem long before a towing capacity problem. Available payload is why I had to trade my F150 Ecoboost rated for 11,200 in for a superduty to pull a trailer with a max weight of 10,250.

You also have to make sure you don't go over the front and rear axle weights on the door stickers.
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I ran into the same problem as Filthy with my payload. My Tundra had a tow capacity of 10,500 which was under my max trailer weight by 500 lbs. But when I started to look at payload I wasn't even close! By the time I added 4 passengers and a 5er hitch my payload was not even close to what the fictional pin weight of my 5er could haul let alone the true loaded weight. I had many on here tell me to hitch and go it would pull it fine! Others told me I would be min 700 lbs over weight. I didn't wait I went truck shopping and upgraded.
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They really don't distort the numbers, how you option the vehicle really effects the capabilities and most dealer sales people are clueless.

If you have an Ecoboost 4X4, super screw, short bed, 3.55 axle, with regular trailer towing, then your numbers are: 7200# GVWR, tow capacity of 9600# for a 15,500 GCWR rated truck.

the same exact looking truck with 3.73 axles and Max towing package has a GVWR of 7650# and jumps to GCWR of 17,100 and max towing capacity of 11,200#.

What you really have to watch is max payload, with your cat scale weight of 6280# and GVWR of 7200# you have a payload of 920#, a WD hitch will be 80 to 100#, so max tongue weight of the trailer is 820#. This 820 puts you right at the max,(not good) with no gear in the truck other than what was in it when you weighed it.

So if you decide to push to the max you can only pull a 8200# trailer even though the base model is listed as being able to pull 9600#, this is becuase you, your wife, the WD hitch, backflip and other vehicle options have reduced your payload.

Most people run into a payload problem long before a towing capacity problem. Available payload is why I had to trade my F150 Ecoboost rated for 11,200 in for a superduty to pull a trailer with a max weight of 10,250.

You also have to make sure you don't go over the front and rear axle weights on the door stickers.
+1 Good post!

You don't need to worry about the factory specs. You did the right thing and weighed your truck.
7200lbs GVWR will be right on your door sticker to confirm if you want. No need to go by some information on the internet or what some dealer told you.

7200 - 6280 = 920lbs

That is what you have to work with. No if's, and's or but's.....
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Don't think you will have a problem with the 24FBS. My 27DSRL loaded is #6800 with #900 or a little more on the tongue (CAT Scale weights).

We are at our payload max and empty truck weighs in at #5900, giving 1000 for payload.

Your 4x4 option is costing you #200 plus added weight and you real axle ratio will also hurt your towing.

A 27DSRL might be a tad above your comfort level.
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