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Old 02-09-2014, 02:48 PM   #1
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A Newby Scratches His Head on Travel Trailer Choice

I have been investigating, with the help of the good folks on this forum, whether or not to get a new travel trailer. I have looked and researched and determined which floorplan is desirable and have come to the following as the list of possibilities:

Eagle Travel Trailer 28BHBE
Jayflight Travel Trailer 28BHBE
Whitehawk Travel Trailer 28DSBH
Whitehawk Travel Trailer 33BHBS
Octane ZX Toy Hauler T29A

I do not see the following available on the Octane ZX toy hauler: no second AC option, no 50-amp option, and no ClimateShield/cold insulation package. The refrigerator seems smaller (i.e., NOT 8 cubic foot), and you have to walk through the trailer to get to the bathroom. I like the following: welded aluminum wall framing members, welded aluminum floor joists, queen bunk beds in the cargo area, availability of at least a 15K BTU A/C, the optional generator and plumbing of fuel tank for the generator, the optional security line, and the large freshwater capacity. This trailer seems to be really ready for boondocking, and the cargo area appears like it would allow you to take “stuff” with you more easily. I don’t have motorized “toys”, but I think I could devise a way to carry bicycles, kayaks, and scuba gear in the space well.

I like the three 28BH floorplans (Whitehawk, Jayflight, and Eagle) because the bunks are big enough for my growing sons, there is an entry door into the bathroom directly, they have the 50 amp and second A/C options, and they have the cold insulation package options or the ClimateShield. I prefer the Jayflight and Eagle over the Whitehawk due to the larger shower, larger propane tanks, larger freshwater capacity, and greater cargo carrying capacity.

My wife and sons think the Whitehawk 33BHS is good because of the very large bunk beds in front and outside kitchen option.

If the Octane ZX had the 50 amp/second AC, cold insulation package, and 8 cubic foot refrigerator then I think I would be done looking.

I can’t tell from the website if there is any difference between the Eagle ClimateShield approach and the Jayflight cold insulation package option. They look like they are doing the same thing to me. If that is, in fact, the case, then I would prefer the Jayflight. I have read a lot of opinions, and it seems to me that while “stick and tin” construction demands extra vigilance on the part of the owner regarding maintenance and the prevention of water leaks, I like the look of the traditional aluminum skin and I’ll gladly save the six or seven thousand dollars more that the Eagle costs. If there really is some difference in the ClimateShield or other construction on the Eagle that makes it superior then I would go the way of the Eagle.

I don’t think I would go with the Whitehawk 33BHDS because of the higher cost and smaller fresh water and cargo capacity.

So, I wonder if anyone knows the following to help this newby:

Is there some reason the cold insulation package and 50 amp/second A/C options are unavailable on the Octane ZX? Would Jayco adds those if I asked them to?

Is there some difference between the Eagle ClimateShield and the Jaylflight with the cold insulation package option?

Is there some reason to prefer the Eagle over the Jayflight? Looks to me like aluminum skin versus fiberglass skin and welded aluminum wall framing members versus wood. I note that floor and roof construction appears to be the same in the Jayflight and Eagle. I.e., it looks like it comes down to personal preference is all. Am I missing something here?
Right now I think I’ll go with the Jayflight.

Thanks much!
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Old 02-09-2014, 04:31 PM   #2
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I can tell you we have the whitehawk 28DSBH and would love to upgrade already to the 33BHBS but due to our tow vehicle, i think that would push us past our limits. We love our Trailer but I can also tell you the 28DSBH does not have the 50amp option or the 2nd AC. We did however upgrade to the climate shield and 15K AC. Good luck with your decision.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:58 AM   #3
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I just purchased the 28DSBH and had also looked at the Jayflight 28BHBE. It was a tough decision but what steered me to the Whitehawk is the overall weight was around 1000 lbs less than the Jayflight. Weight for me was an issue but seeing that you have a 3/4 ton it shouldn't be a factor with the TT's your looking at. Your decision will have to be deciding on Fibreglass or Aluminum and comparing the quality of fixtures and materials between the two.
Good luck and either way I think you'll have made a great decision.
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Old 02-10-2014, 09:05 AM   #4
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I just purchased my 28 BHBE last October. The living space is great. The full size bunks are awesome for kids (and there's a built in ladder, curiously omitted in a lot of bunkhouse models). The shower is AWESOME. We shower every day when we're out, so the size of the shower was a big selling point for us. Fresh water capacity is quite large (86 gallons) and propane capacity is large as well (2 x 30lb tanks). However, waste tanks are relatively small, namely the grey tank; every day showers put us in some kind of spot with that small tank, I empty it every night. Mine has 50 amp service (2nd AC available but not installed), but the underbelly is not enclosed (not really needed in Texas, though you wouldn't think it this winter...)

One thing I don't like about our trailer is that there is somewhat a lack of outside storage. It doesn't seem like it at first, but when you start putting your toys in, you'll notice. The pass-thru at the front is nice, but you don't want to load up the tongue too much. The only other outside storage is at the rear near the utilities, and while the actual space is quite cavernous, the door is too small to get much in there. It is accessible from the inside, and that helps a little. Bottom line, there's not a ton of space for a lot of toys.

One other difference between the Flights and the White Hawks is the inside ceiling height. You'll notice the Jay Flight is taller inside which is kind of nice.

Beyond those few things, it comes down to what fits your style and needs better. And I wouldn't worry about fiberglass vs. stick-and-tin, the floor plan is MUCH more important than this...
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:47 PM   #5
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Thanks guys - appreciate the insight.

Shower size and interior height is a big deal for me.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:00 PM   #6
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Don't forget about the Jay Flight Swift 287BHBE. Seems like a value based option compared to the 28BHBE and White Hawk.
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Don't forget about the Jay Flight Swift 287BHBE. Seems like a value based option compared to the 28BHBE and White Hawk.
AND it is a bit lighter. We came very close to getting the Swift, it's a good trailer.
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It looks to me like the difference between the Swift and the Jayflight are capacity: less CCC, smaller fresh water tank, smaller propane bottles, ....
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It looks to me like the difference between the Swift and the Jayflight are capacity: less CCC, smaller fresh water tank, smaller propane bottles, ....
Also there are a less standard features, and less available options on the Swift series.
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Also there are a less standard features, and less available options on the Swift series.
We just oedered a Jay Flight 28BHBE after first looking at the same model Swift. So I happen to have a list of the differences that mattered to us. I'll give the differences from an upgrade to Jay Flight perspective: two more windows in the slide, curtains in front of bunks, porcelain toilet, glass shower stall doors instead of curtain, able to upgrade to hide-a-bed, better mattress, sewer tank wash out, TV hook up near door, metal kitchen faucet, able to upgrade from steel wheels, larger propane tanks, able to add roof ladder, outlet in bunk area, able to order thermal insualtion package, tinted windows, large fold away door handle, choice of decor colors/pattern. I believe that either floor or roof plywood (maybe both) were heavier duty. Also, unless things have changed, we could get a larger fridge (8 cu ft instead of 6.3).

Some things were trivial and others were important to us. Cost difference seemed to be between $2,000 and $3,000. Obviously worth it to us... Also, there are other differences I did not list, LED lights under the awning comes to mind...
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