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Old 10-23-2013, 02:11 PM   #21
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Our dealer installed the hitch and IIRC it has a 500 lb rating and he does use equalizers.
Yes.. the hitches for the Odyseey max out at 350, but they go up to 500lbs with weight distribution. Honda does not "recommend" WDH's but I'm starting to gather it is a good option if done right. The manual explains that weight distribution can be dangerous if not setup correctly. No other explanation is given. Nice to know I have options.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:43 PM   #22
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I dont think I would tow something that size with a fwd mini-van. Sound like its really going to be pushing it on the tow/weight ratings.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:19 AM   #23
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I towed a Cub 160 with a 2006 Odyssey with the factory installed trailer package, pulled really well. I used a WDH, and honestly would not want to tow without it as the back of the van did squat significantly without it. Power was more than sufficient, it handled quite well, and no problem stopping with the aid of the trailer brakes. Of course the camper pulled better behind a 1/2 ton, but I would not hesitate to tow with the van. (my Cub 160 weighed in at closer to 3,800 lbs) FYI, the Odyssey proved to be a much more stable tow vehicle than the Saturn Vue it replaced. (Odyssey and Vue both had the 3.5 Honda engine, but I think the van had a longer wheelbase)
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Old 10-31-2013, 01:20 PM   #24
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I have a 17C Ex-Port towing with a Toyota Sienna. I've only had it for the end of the season but I've gone on two fairly long trips without issue. I have a Curt WDC with no stabilizer bar. I haven't had even a hint of instability on the highway or up grades.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:35 AM   #25
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TheTick--The one big problem with going over your tv towing limits is, god for bid, you are the cause of an accident and your ins co. is about to be sued they can and will throw "you under the bus". just an fyi Larry
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:48 AM   #26
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TheTick--The one big problem with going over your tv towing limits is, god for bid, you are the cause of an accident and your ins co. is about to be sued they can and will throw "you under the bus". just an fyi Larry
This is always brought up, but is it true? Can you identify one instance of an insurance company absolving themselves of liability because someone was exceeding Mfg weight limits and caused an accident?

On the other hand I can identify several examples of insurance companies paying claims resulting in the driving breaking various laws; Speeding, DWI, Injured parties not wearing seatbelts, etc.
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Old 11-03-2013, 02:19 PM   #27
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Anyone towing with a Mini Van?

I'd like to see proof of this also. Just 1 or 2. With enough info so as to rule out me thinking "there is more to the story".
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:06 PM   #28
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The following JOF thread touched on the liability/legal issues when exceeding a manufacturer's specified weight ratings......, "Law of Negligence": https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...ght=negligence

I apologize to the OP for drifting off topic.

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Old 11-04-2013, 10:30 AM   #29
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This is always brought up, but is it true? Can you identify one instance of an insurance company absolving themselves of liability because someone was exceeding Mfg weight limits and caused an accident?
How would we know? This is a civil matter. Most civil suits are settled out of court and not part of public record. Insurance companies want to keep them out of court because then the record of settlement and liability is kept private.

Keep in mind that in civil matters its not a decision of breaking the law (guilt or innocence), its simply proving a reasonable possibility of negligence . If an injury attorney can prove that the defendant went over manufacture's recommended towing limits, how do you think a jury would find? Insurance companies don't want a jury involved on cases like this so they will either settle up in a hurry or drop the coverage. I suppose one would really have to read the fine print of their policy and/or consult an attorney to make a determination. I doubt any of us here are are qualified to answer this definitively.

Also realize that plaintiffs can sue for more than you may be insured for. So even if your insurance co. backs you up, you may be liable for far more money than you can come up with.

While I don't dismiss the ability of a mini-van or other small vehicle to tow beyond its rated capacity, for the reasons I cited above, do you really want to find yourself in that situation?
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I just thought someone would have direct experience with an insurance company not covering an accident caused by someone exceeding TV weight limits, that's all. I don't expect someone to pull the transcript of a case. As often as the statement is made here and other forums, I thought certainly someone would have first hand experience with an insurance company denying a claim.

That said, I don't support anyone intentionally or unintentionally exceeding published limits, however these forums are full of FUD and unill someone steps up and says it happened to them, I don't think it should be tossed around with such "Matter of Fact"
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