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Old 09-18-2011, 08:03 AM   #1
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Bad wheel bearings???????

I went out last night to check on my camper (2009 26BH) at storage and the first thing I checked was the tires to make sure the had air pressure. I put my foot at the top of the tire and pushed. The tire had plenty of air, however the wheel moved like there is play in the hub. The wheel next to it did the same thing although not as bad. The wheels on the other side seemed fine (one had a little play). I went out again this morning to jack it up to do an unloaded test and it did the same thing. The sound and movement gives the impression that a lug nut is loose, however they are all torques to 120ft-lbs. I pulled the dust boot off and the grease smelled fresh (not burnt).

Does anybody have any ideas? Is this normal for trailers?
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:05 AM   #2
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To me, it sounds like your wheels have more play than they should. This could be a significant safety issue. Do you know if you have Nev-R-Lube bearings, "E-Z lube" bearings or manual lube bearings?

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The sound and movement gives the impression that a lug nut is loose
What is the sound?
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:54 AM   #3
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They are easy lube bearings.

As for the sound, I'm not sure how to describe it. Maybe a low "thud" as it hits each stop. Wish I could explain it better.

I can see having one bad bearing, but 3 out of 4?
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:59 AM   #4
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Being a 2009 TT, it's probably time to have the bearings repacked and the brakes checked/adjusted anyway. I do mine every other year and gives me piece of mind that the brakes are in good shape, along with some fresh grease in the bearings.

The "thud" could be the brake shoes hitting the inside edge of the drum (?)..

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Old 09-18-2011, 12:06 PM   #5
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You should be checking your lug nut torque every trip.. I dont care what they say about split nuts... besides some little urchin may have decided to have a giggle and loosen your nuts..
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Old 09-18-2011, 02:31 PM   #6
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Well.....I'm going to go and pull it home now...Hope it doesn't fall apart on the way...

Hopefully I can figure out what is going on so we can go camping next weekend. Thanks for the feedback. If anyone has any other thoughts, please pass them along because as of now, I'm clueless...
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Old 09-18-2011, 03:45 PM   #7
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If you think your wheel bearings are not adjusted properly, especially if some of the wheels are significantly different from others, the main thing is for a knowledgeable person - you or someone else - to remove the drums and take a look at the bearings. If you get someone to clean and re-pack your bearings, that is part of that job. And, as Rustic Eagle pointed out, it is probably time to do that anyway since your trailer is two years old. It may be that all you need is that bearing service. Probably should also check the brakes while the drums are off.

The truth is that trailers are sort of a constant fix-it project.
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Short of repacking the bearings you should at least jack it up and tighten the axle nuts to the required spec. We bought a new cargo trailer and the first thing I did was to check the bearings. Both were too loose for me so I tightened them up the way I was taught.
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I am tending to agree with you. I am probably going to take it up to m mechanic tomorrow to have him take a look.

After I got it home, I jacked up each tire independently and each wheel had a little bit of play. Since they all did that, I wonder if it was designed that way? If anyone out there wants to jack theirs up, I'd love to know if it's a common issue.

I'll let everyone know what I find out.
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Short of repacking the bearings you should at least jack it up and tighten the axle nuts to the required spec. We bought a new cargo trailer and the first thing I did was to check the bearings. Both were too loose for me so I tightened them up the way I was taught.
Maybe I'll try this before taking it to my mechanic.

Do you know where i can find the required torque spec for the axle nut.

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Old 09-21-2011, 04:56 PM   #11
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I took it to my mechanic. He said that two of the wheels were "very loose". He tighten those up, repacked the bearings, and inspected the brakes and bearings and everything looked good.

The axle nut is a castle nut with cotter pin and those don't just loosen up. That means they came from the factory that way......come on jayco......quality control. I'm just glad the trailer doesn't have that many miles and I caught it soon enough.
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I went on the Dexter website and printed out the reassembly directions as well as the grease specs. I used to be an automotive mechanic and I was surprised on the reassembly procedure from Dexter, seems like they like to run the bearings a little more loose then I would have set it up. I didn't check my wheel movement when I had it jacked up, but I agree that you probably shouldn't be able feel a large amount of movement and it was a good idea to have it looked at.
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The axle nut is a castle nut with cotter pin and those don't just loosen up. That means they came from the factory that way......come on jayco......quality control. I'm just glad the trailer doesn't have that many miles and I caught it soon enough.

With a loose bearing you pull the cotter pin and tighten the castle nut until it is snug. Some books will say 50 ft.lbs. Then back it off to the next place the cotter pin will fit.


I am glad you got it all repaired with out any problems. Jayco probably dosen't touch the bearings as they are already on the frame when they get them.
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I went on the Dexter website and printed out the reassembly directions as well as the grease specs. I used to be an automotive mechanic and I was surprised on the reassembly procedure from Dexter, seems like they like to run the bearings a little more loose then I would have set it up. I didn't check my wheel movement when I had it jacked up, but I agree that you probably shouldn't be able feel a large amount of movement and it was a good idea to have it looked at.
Can you link the site?
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I'm not rescuebub, but here's a link to Dexter's Complete Service Manual for 600-8K axles: Dexter 600-8K Complete Service Manual Note that this manual covers a very wide range of different types of axles, bearings, brakes, and suspensions; so it's important to make sure you find the section that applies to the type of axles your trailer has.
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I'm not rescuebub, but here's a link to Dexter's Complete Service Manual for 600-8K axles: Dexter 600-8K Complete Service Manual Note that this manual covers a very wide range of different types of axles, bearings, brakes, and suspensions; so it's important to make sure you find the section that applies to the type of axles your trailer has.
Thanks! That's a goldmine of info.
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Hi, sorry I was a little late on the reply, but this is a good place to start...
http://www.dexteraxle.com/literature1

As stated, they have alot of products, so you'll have to make sure your in the correct area. I haven't tried it, but you may be able to call them and get technical assistance also.

Also, I don't think Jayco's quality control is at fault on this one, I'm guessing they just get the rolling chassis from Lippert or whoever and build the trailer on top of it, so I'm not sure they even check that stuff. I agree it's still not good to put that out in their dealerships, maybe in the future they will start looking at the chassis also.
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Also, I don't think Jayco's quality control is at fault on this one, I'm guessing they just get the rolling chassis from Lippert or whoever and build the trailer on top of it, so I'm not sure they even check that stuff. I agree it's still not good to put that out in their dealerships, maybe in the future they will start looking at the chassis also.
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I do agree with you.....it was probably the dexters QC that missed it. I'm just glad I caught it before any issues.
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