Blueprints for my freezing pipes Whitehawk

[Ryan B.]

Hey all,

So we're overwintering at a military campground. Last night it got to 9⁰F and our bathroom sink froze. I took the protective wall out and felt the pipes. They were cold but didn't feel frozen. I think the pipes under the rig are not insulated or protected.

The problem is there's that plastic corrugated paneling that's protecting everything. I don't want to start hacking away in random spots looking for pex or other areas to insulate.

Anyone know where I can get blueprints for the pipes (really just the entire rig would be nice)?

[EA37TS]

Originally Posted by Ryan B.

Hey all,

So we're overwintering at a military campground. Last night it got to 9⁰F and our bathroom sink froze. I took the protective wall out and felt the pipes. They were cold but didn't feel frozen. I think the pipes under the rig are not insulated or protected.

The problem is there's that plastic corrugated paneling that's protecting everything. I don't want to start hacking away in random spots looking for pex or other areas to insulate.

Anyone know where I can get blueprints for the pipes (really just the entire rig would be nice)?

Contact Jayco with the VIN and ask them for the diagrams. Be specific with the request. They only sent what I asked for and wouldn’t answer a request for all diagrams.

[Jagiven]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

Contact Jayco with the VIN and ask them for the diagrams. Be specific with the request. They only sent what I asked for and wouldn’t answer a request for all diagrams.

X2, If it is still under warranty Jayco may resist. I would ask for the plumbing and the floor schematics. Also do not be to greedy and ask for every schematic. They seem not to like that.

Do you have the Glacier Package? I tried to find the details on Jayco's website but was not successful. Here are a couple links that might shed some light on the subject.

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f...mps-31836.html

https://www.jayco.com/uploads/rvs/br...awk%202020.pdf

Are you using electric space heaters or the propane furnace? With the glacier package when the furnace is running it dumps some warm air into the underbelly.

9 degrees is cold for any TT. Do you have any skirting around the unit? If not, I would add some. Then add a couple of old school incandescent (60+ watt) lights under the TT. Surprising how the two can keep the belly warm.

I have not used our camper down below 19/20 degrees. When it is this cool, I keep the cabinet doors ajar that have plumbing in them. This allows a little bit more heat to get in behind where all the plumbing is hiding.

"Slowpoke" who has a Seneca, added an additional water pipe, a solenoid valve, and I think a temperature sensor. He rigged it up so that the water pump will circulate some from the FW tank, through the water heater, through the pipes, and then dump back down into the FW tank. Keeping everything from freezing. Not sure how hard something like that would be to do on your Whitehawk.

Good Luck, winter is only starting and it will get cooler.

[pconroy]

I bit the bullet a year ago and crawled under our Greyhawk - push, pulled, slide pipe wrap over every exposed water pipe I could see. It helped, I think.


We made it thru mid-teens. But one night, it was 14* and windy and we froze.


This summer I gathered the gumption to crawl back under and lined almost all of them with de-icing heat cable. Lined, meaning I ran the heat cable along side of the pex.


No real word data yet, but I'm hopeful.

[16WhiteColly]

You won’t get any diagrams from Jayco until after the warranty period. Don’t waste your time asking.

[Jagiven]

Originally Posted by 16WhiteColly

You won’t get any diagrams from Jayco until after the warranty period. Don’t waste your time asking.

People get them, I am one. Even in 2012, people complained about not being able to get them until the warranty expired. I called, was nice, I asked, they asked for my email, and I had them within a few hours. I had a story concocted to say I had a handicapped child, and needed to modify the tt to be accessible for him. Never went that far. I think its just who you speak with, and if they want to be helpful. Even recently others have said they got them, and the next person said they wouldn't send them.

[16WhiteColly]

If they know it is in warranty or if you post a question about a modification, they won’t give them. As simple as replacing an antenna, you will not get roof diagrams.

[WyoGuy1]

Originally Posted by EA37TS

Contact Jayco with the VIN and ask them for the diagrams. Be specific with the request. They only sent what I asked for and wouldn’t answer a request for all diagrams.

Thank you. Good Idea.

[FISTEP]

I sent Jayco a request for schematics and explained that I had just bought the trailer a month before. They sent me a full set of drawings for framing, plumbing and electrical.