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Old 04-26-2015, 10:15 PM   #1
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Buying 264BHW soon -- have some questions

I'm planning to purchase a Jay Flight SLX 264BHW this week. We got a really good deal on it and so we're upgrading from our popup--a 2002 Coleman Bayside, which was actually quite large, albeit light, with a slide.

I had a few questions though and am looking for opinions.

Unloaded weight is 4425
dry hitch weight is 510.
GVWR is 6500, but I don't plan to ever come close to that.

My TV is a 2007 Mercury Mountaineer V8/AWD with factory tow package. Trailer weight range: 0-7020 lbs
max tongue weight 500lb (WC), 740lb (WD)

I'm definitely going to get the WD hitch.

- Any suggestions on brake controller? I'm installing myself since the factory package included a connector so it's plug and play). Doesn't seem sensible to go cheap on this given how much the trailer costs, but I don't want to spend money I don't need to spend.

- I should be fine with capacities, right?

- There is an enormous cargo compartment up front. It shouldn't add to tongue weight pound-for-pound, but what do people usually carry in there? What does tongue weight actually end up being?

- Is there anything else I should be thinking about?

Thanks in advance for the help.
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Old 04-26-2015, 10:37 PM   #2
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Review the GVWR of the tow vehicle, subtract the curb weight of the tow vehicle. The difference is the maximum of capacity of the tongue weight and all cargo and passengers in the tow vehicle. You should stay comfortably below this weight.

You can find GVWR info on a sticker on the door jamb of the mountaineer.


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Old 04-26-2015, 10:39 PM   #3
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The WDH will shift weight forward off the rear axle, but does not change the maximum GVWR of the tow vehicle.
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Old 04-26-2015, 11:14 PM   #4
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The WDH will shift weight forward off the rear axle, but does not change the maximum GVWR of the tow vehicle.
Right -- it only changes the maximum tongue weight, according to the manual.
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Old 04-26-2015, 11:18 PM   #5
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The math is not in your favor to pull that trailer. You will be way over pay load and total weight allowed.

here is a link that will help you: Travel Trailer Weight Calculator
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Old 04-26-2015, 11:30 PM   #6
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I don't know much about your specific setup but one thing I can say is that with mine my rear axle weight and tow vehicle GVWR are the numbers that become an issue. My TT claims to have a tongue weight of 685lbs but add the propane and batteries and very quickly it's near 1000lbs. Even tho my tow vehicle is rated to tow another 1800lbs the GVWR of my tv is now maxed out. Unfortunately the only way to find out what everything really weighs is to buy it and take it to a scale, at least at my dealership. So I bought everything I could to make it as safe as possible while being close to my max weight and then start shopping for a 2500!
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:32 AM   #7
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The math is not in your favor to pull that trailer. You will be way over pay load and total weight allowed.

here is a link that will help you: Travel Trailer Weight Calculator
I posted a reply last night but it seems it never made it here. Anyway....

Thanks for the link -- that's very helpful.

Using the calculator, I got the following: Weight Calculator Results

It's close, but the max weights still appear to be within the vehicle's limits. Even at max tongue weight, I'd still have enough payload for passengers, but nothing else (which is OK with me).

So, it seems I have a range of 698-1267 lbs for trailer cargo. It seems from other threads on here that even 1000 lbs of cargo is high, so I would think I'd be fine. Realistically, if tongue weight ends up being around 700lbs at 13% (960 lbs of trailer cargo), I'd be somewhere around 5% under limits.

So, unless I'm missing something, if I closely monitor tongue weight and trailer cargo weight, and don't put anything in the Mountaineer other than passengers, I should be OK, right?
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:36 AM   #8
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Ah, I'm assuming this reply will post. I posted a reply last night but didn't see it this morning. When I re-posted, it said the moderator had to approve it. I'm thinking that the post requires moderator approval since I'm a new member and the post contained a link.


So, thanks to everyone for the replies and I assume my detailed reply will post at some point.
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:18 AM   #9
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Welcome! In the front compartment when traveling I carry equipment for camp setup outside the TT (entry door side) back side of compartment I carry items for hookup to water and power and maybe some items don't plan of using. Once parked I put the equalizer hitch in that compartment. Under the queen bed is the wife's area for storage...

Of note, I have added a propane tank cover, spare tire cover, struts to lift queen bed (awesome & needed to get to that part of storage area). Built a shelf system around vanity mirror/sink area for toiletries (wife quite happy with that as no medicine cabinet).

This all done before first outing because parks around here don't open until early May due to possible frozen water lines and possibility of freezing temps...




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Old 04-27-2015, 09:22 AM   #10
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Thanks LarryJ. I'm curious, what is your actual tongue weight with the stuff in the compartment and under the bed?
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