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Old 09-15-2015, 09:03 AM   #21
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I have pushed mine up thru the valve on the black tank from the outside. There is loads of potential for it to get stuck in or damage the valve seat. I did not see any advantage to it.
It did not help my sensors at all and that was the reason I was playing around with it.
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:48 AM   #22
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I know what you mean about the sensors. I don't think they ever work right and I've never seen any way to help that problem. Rinsing, ice and all the other fixes just don't seem to work. Maybe someday they will come up with a system that works but I've never seen one. Best way to determine how full the black tank is seems to be a flashlight down the toilet. Yucky but accurate.
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Hohen... I understand what youre saying. But where in the Jayco user manual does Jayco ever tell a new user how to properly operate the black tank?

I'm guessing you won't be able to find it.

And of the 3,000,000 units on the roads today, there is less than 4,000 people who are members here on this forum, so this black tank usage discussion NEVER goes away. Why? Because none of the manufacturers bother to write a proper manual.
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:45 AM   #24
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Wouldn't a bit of water or antifreeze solve the drying out problem?
It would, but if the Trailer sits for months at a time, I assume the owner needs to go add water to replace what evaporates. I do. Better safe than sorry.

And there are lots of stories out there about Black Tanks that plug up solid like concrete.
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It would, but if the Trailer sits for months at a time, I assume the owner needs to go add water to replace what evaporates. I do. Better safe than sorry.

And there are lots of stories out there about Black Tanks that plug up solid like concrete.
Yeah, I've heard a lot of those stories. But further investigation usually reveals that the user uses the toilet, hits the pedal for a second and that's it. They use about a tablespoon of water with each flush. No doubt that will result in a stalagmite. Let that dry up over a few months and you'll surely have a problem.

Prevention (via proper usage) is always better than trying to find a cure. Don't be so stingy with the water and you'll never have a problem to fix.
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Old 09-15-2015, 01:08 PM   #26
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Hohen... I understand what youre saying. But where in the Jayco user manual does Jayco ever tell a new user how to properly operate the black tank?

I'm guessing you won't be able to find it.

And of the 3,000,000 units on the roads today, there is less than 4,000 people who are members here on this forum, so this black tank usage discussion NEVER goes away. Why? Because none of the manufacturers bother to write a proper manual.
Owners manuals don't cover a lot of stuff regarding the use of an RV and most of the stuff they do cover they cover poorly. Folks have to avail themselves of other sources of knowledge besides the owners manual.

You can't really blame the manufacturer for that. They make RV's, they are not in the operator training business. I doubt you'll find a car owners manual that tells you not to run a red light. You have to learn that elsewhere.
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Ed you're making it hard to stay away from HF! (As long as you know what you're getting, I don't mind HF. I'd never buy long-term tools there, or expect to pass these tools down to my kids, but for a recreational took to send down the crapper... Sign me up!).
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Ed you're making it hard to stay away from HF! (As long as you know what you're getting, I don't mind HF. I'd never buy long-term tools there, or expect to pass these tools down to my kids, but for a recreational took to send down the crapper... Sign me up!).
HF tools are great for most home mechanic's and at the price you can have travel sets in all vehicles. Primary stuff is Craftsman but specialty, little used, HF can't be beat.
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